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Bill: Imperial Party General (IPGRA) Reforms Act 3930
Details
Submitted by[?]: Luthori Vision
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3930
Description[?]:
| General Reforms Submitted by the Imperial Party Bill was made by; Daly Elliston MD, Leader of the Imperial Party Made on; April 3930 |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Current: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.
Proposed: Individuals are not permitted to own firearms under any circumstances.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:02:07, October 30, 2015 CET | From | Luthori Vision | To | Debating the Imperial Party General (IPGRA) Reforms Act 3930 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Members of the Diet i now present to you an article from the Holy Luthori Empire Daily (Issued December 3926); (Hopefully you read our newspapers, so you'll know of this event) "Citizens of Luthori were horrified as news came through of a shooting spree in a small school in the Duchy of Yodukan. Donald Davis, a frustrated student fed up with school work, entered the school this yesterday morning armed with a gun and began shooting students and teachers indiscriminately. After killing 15 people and wounding 18 more, Donald Davis committed suicide before being arrest by law enforcement. Former teacher Veronica Peters told reporters how the community was still in a state of shock and how this tragedy would haunt Luthori for years to come. Holy Luthori Emperor Gustavus IV of House Adlerberg-Villayn . has since travelled to the area to attend the funerals of the victims." Now, i've spoken with the families of these victims and heard their pain. These families will not see their love ones again, due to the actions of one! strict license has failed, as this event has happened! Tell me how many more people have to die before this Diet stops being stubborn! Tell me, How would you feel if it was your child died? I urge the Diet to see sense and vote for this bill! I yield Daly Elliston MD, Leader of the Imperial Party |
| Date | 21:58:36, October 30, 2015 CET | From | United Luthori | To | Debating the Imperial Party General (IPGRA) Reforms Act 3930 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The Progressive Conservative Party believes in sensible gun control, and this is the policy that stands in Luthori. It is a tragedy that a child somehow got a hand of such a weapon and caused so much pain to so many, but to politicize this event to try and further what I believe are ulterior motives is simply Machiavellian. Mr. Speaker, we have a proud history of democracy and the rights of the individual. Our very controlled and regulated usage of firearms is testament to the lengths we citizens of Luthori will go to protect our own people against the worst that can happen; however, it is simply not sensible to attempt to ban all firearms in this country of nearly 100 million people. The people in our nation are armed in the event of a foreign takeover, or even perhaps, a domestic takeover, something which I think is more likely as the Imperial Party gains seats. You see Mr. Speaker, my concern. I believe that the Imperial Party contains certain elements which may take advantage of opportunities to take power away from the people in order to maximize the power of the central government. Now, I'm sure there are some good members of the Imperial Party, but I believe that yes, the Imperial Party is fascist. Peter Buckley MP Leader of the PCP |
| Date | 22:40:11, October 30, 2015 CET | From | Luthori Vision | To | Debating the Imperial Party General (IPGRA) Reforms Act 3930 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Who are you Peter Buckley? I have never heard of you, and to be quite frank nobody in this Diet has heard of you! As for us being a fascist party these claims are unfounded! The fact you would suggest something so bad as that, is frankly quite rude! We simply want what is best for the people. Guns are being used to kill people, how is that a good thing! Tell me, how would you react if your children were killed at school? " The people in our nation are armed in the event of a foreign takeover" Do we have an Army? Because i was under the impression that we had a full time standing army which is mean't to protect us from invasion. "A domestic takeover, something which I think is more likely as the Imperial Party gains seats." Mr Speaker, this is a low blow even for the PCP. The Progressive Conservative Party are just upset as they came 7th in the election and was unable to achieve 1 million votes. However it was quite nice to see you had a nice turn out this election. Peter Buckley how about you take you and your MD's back to their rightful place, the backbenches, as no-one is going to elect you in. I yield Daly Elliston MD, Leader of the Imperial Party |
| Date | 23:00:10, October 30, 2015 CET | From | Luthori Vision | To | Debating the Imperial Party General (IPGRA) Reforms Act 3930 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Before Peter Buckley starts crying for his mummy, let the Diet see, he started it, with the telling of false claims. The PCP might be older than us, but we still beat them in an election and probably will keeping do so. I yield Daly Elliston MD, Leader of the Imperial Party |
| Date | 01:18:55, October 31, 2015 CET | From | Luthori National Union Party | To | Debating the Imperial Party General (IPGRA) Reforms Act 3930 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, As we stated before when the Imperial Party brought these reforms before the Diet, this is an lawful abrogation of the ancient liberties of the Luthori people. We would be destroying one of our sacred rights for no reason. For as much as the Mr. Elliston protests, these actions will not stop maniacs from putting their monstrous plans into action. The Luthori people have treasured their right to bear arms since the founding of this monarchy. It would be a grievous destruction of the liberties of His Majesty's subjects to destroy their right to gun ownership in this way. We must also second the PCP's views concerning the Imperial Party. I do not think anyone in this diet can second guess the bona fides of the National Union in our support for the monarchy or this nation. However, the PCP is correct that the Imperial Party does not stand for nationalism, patriotism, monarchism or conservatism. They stand for nothing more than fascism and a revolutionary overhaul of the His Majesty's Government in their twisted utopian vision. I look to the leaders of Choice, the LLD, the SDL and the Liberal Alliance. Many of you muddied the waters when the LNUP first emerged by calling us radicals, fascists and religious extremists. Let me show you the true face of destructive extremism. That face is Daly Elliston and the monstrosity he calls the Imperial Party. I yield. Robert Patterson Leader of the LNUP, Interim Minister of Foreign Affairs |
| Date | 01:55:41, October 31, 2015 CET | From | Luthori Vision | To | Debating the Imperial Party General (IPGRA) Reforms Act 3930 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Luthori National Union Party, you say we don't support monarchism, correct me if i'm wrong, but when my party tried to get more powers for the Crown (Which would mean less powers for government) you voted against (The Crown/Head of State picks the Mayors), so how can i not support monarchism? if i'm the one fighting for them to have more powers! Also, you're going against my party and unfairly targeting us due to misguided lies and false rumors. Do you have evidence suggesting that i've tried to take power? No you don't, so why don't you just shut up Rt hon Robert Patterson, and get your facts right! Lets face it, you're still sore over my vote of no confidence in you. I stand by it, you was a weak government and lacked the stones to do major reforms. So how dare you! You wet rag! You dare question me, in this very Diet with no proof! If you're referencing my bill about Paramilitaries, note many other parties supported them before and that they were allowed in this nation at a time. Are all them parties "fascists" too? I support the Monarchy, in fact i wish to give more powers to the Crown. You call government against me, for no reason but on the lies of two silly parties (You bring included). Tell me, when have i tried to take power? Never! I support the government and its actions. How about your party gets out of bed with the bankers and wealthy and do some actual research into my party. What this is, is destructive discrimination you don't like my party because i want to ban guns, which have been known to kill innocent people! Grained, i have put forward questionable reforms, but i do it so that this nation can be come great again. You question my loyalty with no evidence, i live to serve the Crown and its people, not myself. You're using this to lick your wounds from the election and try and worm your way back into government. As an act to prove myself not to be power driven, i'll support the Left wing Cabinet, as a sign of good faith. May the rest of the Diet See that these dogs are targeting me, on misguided lies! I yield Daly Elliston MD, Leader of the Imperial Party |
| Date | 02:27:27, October 31, 2015 CET | From | United Luthori | To | Debating the Imperial Party General (IPGRA) Reforms Act 3930 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I believe the Imperial Party Leader is out of order and I would advise he take a deep breath before he ruptures an aneurysm and stains the floor of the Imperial Diet. I think many MDs would agree we find it difficult dealing with Mr. Elliston on a daily basis. Mr. Speaker, I find it quite rich that Mr. Elliston seems to take on the guise of a distressed parent. He speaks with conviction and a great passion for the welfare of our youth. Yet, it seems as if Mr. Elliston is perfectly content with corporal punishment, such as lashing and beating. Now, I understand these are different issues, but the point I am attempting to make is that there is a gap here. I urge the Luthori people to realize that when it comes to the Imperial Party, there certainly is more than meets the eye. I look forward to substantive debates in the future, and I do hope Mr. Elliston will grow out of his sophomoric tantrums. After all, I'm sure we can all agree that we are serving in the legislature of the greatest nation in the world. Therefore we, as its members, must exhibit a certain level of decorum and dignity. I applaud the Right Honorable Foreign Affairs Minister for his defense of sensible conservatism in Luthori. I yield. Peter Buckley MP Leader of the PCP |
| Date | 02:45:54, October 31, 2015 CET | From | Luthori Vision | To | Debating the Imperial Party General (IPGRA) Reforms Act 3930 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We found it out of order that you called us "fascist"! So don't play that card, Peter! Note, this was caused by the Progressive Conservative Party! For corporal punishment our party has reviewed it and have decided it would not be best to have it as an policy, thus the reasoning why it hasn't been re-suggested, and wasn't in our manifesto. The people elected me 34 seats, because they believe in me. Mr Speaker, Am i wrong but did Progressive Conservative Party start all of this, when a simple we can't support this bill would have done. PCP, making false truths about a party is going to get a reaction! Honestly, what did you think was going to happen? If PCP wants an apologize, they should issue us one first as they started it, by falsely stating my party as an " fascist" party. An incorrect statement. I'm here for the people, not to please you and the other MD's! I yield Daly Elliston MD, Leader of the Imperial Party |
| Date | 11:30:20, October 31, 2015 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the Imperial Party General (IPGRA) Reforms Act 3930 |
| Message | Mr Speaker This bickering highlights exactly why the electorate dropped support in more right-wing parties. Even the Liberal Alliance has turned to a more social-liberal stance in this current term. This outlines the current instability of the right-wing parties. We also find it rather amusing that one of the few times we can agree with the Imperial Party is the time they are called out by the LNUP and PCP. In response to the LNUP's remark about parties naming them radicals and extremists and that the Imperial's are the true face of that, we wager that the Imperial Party are indeed an extreme-right party, however just because of this, doesn't mean that your fair party isn't also on that same section of the spectrum, slightly milder in places however, but in some ways the Imperial Party is actually more progressive than your party such as this gun law, whilst other times your party is the more progressive. Is there much difference? Not particularly, the Imperial's just happen to be even more extreme. The Rt. Hon. Vincent Wilkinson MD Leader of Choice |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 161 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 150 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 44 |
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