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Bill: Citizen's Assembly Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Totalitarian Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: February 2173

Description[?]:

Presently, citizens are allowed to assemble in public, creating dangerous citizens for themselves and everyone around them. Recent riots in Bentara have shown that police do not have the powers required to control these groups. The Totalitarian Party proposes the police be given the right to disperse a group if they believe it poses a potential risk to public safety.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date14:11:59, January 16, 2006 CET
FromTraxian Imperial Party
ToDebating the Citizen's Assembly Act
MessageAgreed

Date01:57:08, January 17, 2006 CET
FromPost-Revolutionary Pragmatic Party
ToDebating the Citizen's Assembly Act
MessageWe agree.

Date03:36:20, January 17, 2006 CET
FromNational Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Citizen's Assembly Act
MessagePublic property is the property of the individual, and the individual has the right to utilise it.

Date05:27:20, January 17, 2006 CET
FromTotalitarian Party
ToDebating the Citizen's Assembly Act
MessageBut what if the way in which those individuals are using the property puts others at risk? The Totalitarian Party does not want to rescind the citizens' right to use public property. We merely want to ensure they use the property safely.

Date15:23:26, January 17, 2006 CET
FromNational Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Citizen's Assembly Act
MessageIf an individual commits a crime against another individual, then that individual will be prosecuted, until then they have a right to utilise their property.

Date16:00:33, January 17, 2006 CET
FromPost-Revolutionary Pragmatic Party
ToDebating the Citizen's Assembly Act
MessageThis is not a matter of individuals, this is a matter of groups. A group has a much larger destructive potential than an individual - as such, standards that a group must adhere to should be stricter than the standards an individual must adhere to.

Date22:11:49, January 17, 2006 CET
FromNational Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Citizen's Assembly Act
MessageThere is no such thing as a collective "group", only multiple individuals.

Date00:31:52, January 18, 2006 CET
FromPost-Revolutionary Pragmatic Party
ToDebating the Citizen's Assembly Act
MessageA group is composed of multiple individuals, yes, but a group as a whole has qualities that individuals in themselves do not have. This is the principle behind the phalanx, behind a business, behind even society itself, one might argue.

By your reasoning, there are no such things as triangles, only individual dots.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
     

Total Seats: 283

no
  

Total Seats: 93

abstain
  

Total Seats: 65


Random fact: RP laws follow the same passing rules as in-game variable laws. Laws that are not of a constitutional nature require a simple majority "Yes" vote from active parties currently holding seats. Laws that are of a constitutional nature require a 2/3 majority "Yes" vote from active parties currently holding seats. RP laws may be abolished a simple majority vote this applies to ANY RP law.

Random quote: "Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it." - George Bernard Shaw

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