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Bill: Name Change Bill.
Details
Submitted by[?]: Aloria Green Socialist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2188
Description[?]:
Maybe this will stop people using "but we're a confederacy" instead of actual arguments on issues.
I propose the country be renamed The Free Republic of Aloria.
Needs a 2/3 vote though... |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:54:53, January 17, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | Uh, no.
Aloria has a libertarian capitalist majority. We'll always have at least 1/3. You're not changing it from a confederacy. Free Republic is too common, confederacy is unique, we have a lot of devolved powers, you get the picture. As for United Socialist Republic, there's so many things wrong with it it's not even funny. Oh look! This bill just failed! The two capitalists won't let you do it! :P |
| Date | 20:18:28, January 17, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | Name changes are done in the description via resolutions. However, you need 2/3 to pass them. I doubt that the libertarian capitalists will allow such a name change so it is safe to guess that this bill will fail horribly. |
| Date | 21:55:08, January 17, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | What a big gamble. What if you're out of power, huh? Then you'll lose the cabinet, head of state (which you don't have), name, influence, etc. How ironic. 7 close parties stealing each other's voter base so 3 parties are so close to getting power and have a chance to getting power. |
| Date | 21:57:50, January 17, 2006 CET |
From |  Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | ICP are so immature. When will the people grow sick of their childish sneering? Having something 'because it is unique' isn't the strongest of reasons. Different for the sake of it? I suppose it's unique to have a party that doesn't care for its voters. :P |
| Date | 22:16:52, January 17, 2006 CET |
From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | Are you trying to tell us that you are a caring, sharing party? Pull the other one! Voters have voted for the AGSP for over a century, and I'm sure they will for another. We have been both a small party and a big party- we have experiance. The ICP will learn all this in time. More voters for now, but will you stick to it when they dry up? |
| Date | 01:51:32, January 18, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | No, I don't think you'll get more voters than us as long as we're still representing the underrepresented libertarian capitalists and the socialist unitarist environmentalist vote is still split between 6 or 7 parties.
And remember, Aloria's still a confederacy! |
| Date | 05:01:49, January 18, 2006 CET |
From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | "No, I don't think you'll get more voters than us as long as we're still representing the underrepresented libertarian capitalists and the socialist unitarist environmentalist vote is still split between 6 or 7 parties."
I wouldn't call them underrepresented.
"And remember, Aloria's still a confederacy!"
Oh shut up. It was the Freedom Party who was responsible for the devolution of most powers to the local governments and the change in name and government. But besides that, you're just being annoying. |
| Date | 11:47:36, January 18, 2006 CET |
From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | But now we have the Democratic Liberal Party to steal from your voter base, too. All we need to do is make sure that between us we have 2/3s of the seats, and then it's bye-bye Confederacy. |
| Date | 13:34:33, January 18, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | Oh, DLP steals my voter base?
*They only vote for half of the capitalist bills and none of the devolutionist bills, devolution is more important an Alorian opinion.
*Laissez-faire is a hard visibility to hold, if they're lucky they'll be laissez-faire-leaning.
*MY voter base in particular is held strong and kept in the 70 to 125 range because of being a big environmental skeptic. I won Krentori in 5 of the last 6 elections. |
| Date | 02:37:15, January 19, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | Tyrants by the classical definition are those who come to power by force. The ICP has never taken power by force in this great confederacy. By the modern definition, it would require us being in power. If you are referring to the past, please support your statement and show any evidence of mass muders and the like.
And no, don't live in the past. The confederacy is great and unique. |
| Date | 04:02:41, January 19, 2006 CET |
From | Hammerian Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | If this is a joke, we must have missed the punch line.
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And remember, Aloria's still a confederacy! |
| Date | 13:21:22, January 20, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | Haha. Not a chance.
109+100+66+66 = 341.
The confederates have *more* than 300 seats. I doubt you'd be able to gain more than 75 seats next election. No confederacy going down, I'm afraid. |
| Date | 22:05:27, January 20, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | You should wait a dozen or so decades until the visibilities in Aloria change, then. Until then, you should save off this bill and remove it from debate to keep the debate list clean. Please either put it to vote or remove it as Aloria has just gotten clean on the bill list (a few IC years before you returned). |
| Date | 15:06:53, January 21, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | As long as the country is dominantly federalist in opinions, this will fall through. If you're so confident, put it up to vote, see who votes how, and then propose a new one when those who voted yes have 2/3. Deal? |
| Date | 22:36:14, January 21, 2006 CET |
From | Hammerian Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | Translation: "We know you're right but we don't want the whole of Aloria to see that, so we'll just repropose after the elections... even though we have no chance in hell gaining the required seats." |
| Date | 23:24:17, January 21, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | Amen. That's why our two parties have been the only parties to hold the shiney "largest party" status in a while. Some people have a disconnect between their views and the views of the people. |
| Date | 15:15:36, February 12, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | You should just put it to vote, clear the debate list you know. It'd also save it permanently so you could look it up and repropose it later if you need to. |
| Date | 19:26:07, February 12, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | And with federalism now a vital issue, you will simply become more UNPOPULAR to the people, forcing the pro-confederates to get at least more than half of the vote. |
| Date | 21:11:42, February 12, 2006 CET |
From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Name Change Bill. | | Message | Hehe, well the joke is that the Confederates will always have at least 1/3 as long as federalism is a vital issue. Even out of power we can prevent you from power, too. It's called "deadlock" |
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