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Bill: The better nation bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Great Rutania party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 3967
Description[?]:
| This bill will make our nation better by giving criminals a reason not to commit crime. And we need to reduce the anti smoking laws but not massively. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Voting rights of criminals.
Old value:: Criminals are always allowed to vote, regardless of whether they are in jail or not.
Current: Criminals are always allowed to vote, regardless of whether they are in jail or not.
Proposed: Criminals released from jail are allowed to vote after a certain period of time.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards fireworks.
Old value:: Local governments determine fireworks laws.
Current: Local governments determine fireworks laws.
Proposed: Professionals may run licensed fireworks shows, small fireworks are legal to the general public.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The title of the head of government, who chairs the cabinet.
Old value:: Speaker of the House
Current: Morair Seansalair (Lord Chancellor)
Proposed: Prime Minister
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Proposed: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards smoking.
Old value:: Smoking regulations are to be determined by local governments.
Current: Smoking is legal outdoors and in private homes and clubs, but illegal indoors in all places of employment.
Proposed: Smoking is legal outdoors and in private homes and clubs, but illegal indoors in places of employment, with the exception of places that primarily serve liquor.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:33:50, January 10, 2016 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the The better nation bill |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We do not support this bill. Thea Power Chairman LP |
| Date | 21:37:53, January 12, 2016 CET | From | Great Rutania party | To | Debating the The better nation bill |
| Message | Mr speaker, the liberal party is obviously ignoring that this bill is what this nation needs! We need to get criminals to realise that that they need to look after our community (article 1). We need a strong, powerful intelligence agency that will keep Rutania and its interests safe around the globe (article 4). We also need to allow the people more things like owning small fireworks! This bill is exactly what this nation needs! Thank you. |
| Date | 22:07:49, January 12, 2016 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the The better nation bill |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Criminals are citizens of this nation too. As long as they are citizens they have the right to determine who is going to decide for them in the house, they have the right to decide who's going to be president. It's insane that someone who has been caught for a non-violent crime can't vote, just because the police caught him/her with to much alcohol by the wheel. The judge sentences him for a period in jail since this is his third time. He can't vote anymore and thereby are his right diminished just because he was driving and drinking? That seems unfair, doesn't it? A strong powerful intelligence agency is what we don't need, they violate our right to privacy and now you want them to have the ability to do covert operations in a country without their permission. We don't want other countries to do covert operations in our country do we? It's invasion to send intelligence agency members to undertake covert operations. In regards to fireworks and smoking, we agree that nationally it shouldn't be banned at all, but personally we value local governments taking care of this. Thea Power Chair(wo)man LP |
| Date | 21:26:43, January 13, 2016 CET | From |  Democratic Socialist Party of Rutania | To | Debating the The better nation bill |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The DSP supports articles 2 and 3 of this bill, but cannot support the remaining articles. Aldwin Fletcher Chairman of the National Executive Committee of the Democratic Socialist Party of Rutania |
| Date | 21:31:10, January 13, 2016 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party of Rutania | To | Debating the The better nation bill |
| Message | Mr Speaker, A correction: the DSP also supports article 4 of this bill. We would like to advise the GRP to avoid combining such diverse articles in a single bill, as this complicates decision making and makes a bill less likely to pass. In particular, constitutional amendments, which require a 2/3 vote, should be given a bill of their own. Aldwin Fletcher Chairman of the National Executive Committee of the Democratic Socialist Party of Rutania |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 64 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 436 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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