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Bill: ISM Birth Control Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Liberal Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2173
Description[?]:
| RECOGNISING that the government 'testing; would be parents is odd PROPOSING that these tests are stopped BECAUSE they serve no purpose, at considerable cost |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning parental qualifications.
Old value:: The government requires a test for would-be parents, if parents circumvent the test they are allowed to keep the children, but are watched for incompentence.
Current: The government does not hold qualifications for new parents.
Proposed: The government does not hold qualifications for new parents.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:12:47, January 20, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the ISM Birth Control Bill |
| Message | The AAS actually supports testing. We test adopting parents, the same formalities SHOULDD be present in our non-adoptive population... Or, we should abandon testing of adopting parents also. On the other hand, we always objected to the fact that the current law has 'no teeth' anyway. If they don't test, they STILL get to keep the children.... makes the whole system just a little pointless. The AAS will vote in favour of this resolution. |
| Date | 22:01:36, January 20, 2006 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the ISM Birth Control Bill |
| Message | Adopted parents and natural parents are somewhat different, therefore should not come under the same laws. |
| Date | 22:13:05, January 20, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the ISM Birth Control Bill |
| Message | Different how? They need to give different care? There is a different burden of responsibility? Adoptive parents need to 'love' their children differently? The ONLY difference, is the location and trajectory of the eggs and sperm at the moment of conception. |
| Date | 00:14:53, January 21, 2006 CET | From | Likaton Fascist Front | To | Debating the ISM Birth Control Bill |
| Message | We would have thought the only difference is bioligical lineage. |
| Date | 00:39:25, January 21, 2006 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the ISM Birth Control Bill |
| Message | Yes, same. The ISM believes that a biological parent should not be going through testing to see whether or not they should look after their own offspirng. However potential adoptess have to go through checks, simply to ensure they don't have a history of child abuse etc. |
| Date | 18:47:37, January 21, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the ISM Birth Control Bill |
| Message | And yet... 'birth' parents are NOT checked to see if they have a history of child abuse? It seems bizarre, that an adoptive parent, who is willing to spend all the money, and go through all the paper-work... is treated as a second-class citizen, behind a pair of teenagers who couldn't keep their underwear on their own bodies. |
| Date | 18:57:18, January 21, 2006 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the ISM Birth Control Bill |
| Message | Quite rightly too. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 441 | |||||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 59 | |||||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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