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Bill: Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Alliance
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 3977
Description[?]:
| Mr Speaker We seek a restoration of the Monarchy. The LA, HSP, SDL, NPL and CRP have all negotiated for a change of constitution. I yield. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: President
Current: His Irrevocable Imperial Majesty, by the Almighty's Grace, Inheritor of the House of Elior, Inheritor of the House of Orange-Villayn, Inheritor of the House of Rothingren-Traugott, Albert, Emperor of Luthori, King of Mordusia, King of Rutania, Meleh (King) of the Yeudi Homeland, Head of the House of Orange-Villayn Armstead, Duke of Alcarie, Duke of Canterwall, Holder of the Yeudi Crown of 8 Gems, Supreme Governor of the Church, Defender of the Faith, Defender of the Holy Land.
Proposed: HIH Emperor Anthony I of House Adlerberg-Villayn
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The title of the head of government, who chairs the cabinet.
Old value:: Chancellor
Current: Prime Minister
Proposed: Imperial Chancellor
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:41:38, January 31, 2016 CET | From | Progress Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Although we were republican, having now officially voted to have no position on the issue we will still vote against this bill as we see no need to change only after two years as a republican state. James Fulkirk, Leader of PP |
| Date | 20:42:07, January 31, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | (I have to back article 2 but I'm not letting imperialism take hold of the Republoc again) |
| Date | 20:48:29, January 31, 2016 CET | From | Progress Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | OOC: Why would you back changing the title to one of the Emperor? I mean that would be the 'presidents title', so if it was applied it would be 'HIH Emperor Anthony I of House Adlerberg-Villayn William Orangeheuser' |
| Date | 20:50:19, January 31, 2016 CET | From | Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | OOC: Next presidential we endorse a candidate that's name is "." Then we abolish the HoS-electoral system. As we did in the 3880's |
| Date | 20:50:23, January 31, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | OOC: it's for peace and to abolish the NPL's authoritarian reforms |
| Date | 20:51:38, January 31, 2016 CET | From | Progress Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | OOC: So a Communist party that backed the republic is doing this in the name of peace. . . Okay. Anyway I RP'd as a republican party, but OOCly I don't mind how this goes. |
| Date | 20:58:02, January 31, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | The LPU is torn on voting with the Worker Revolution voting yes with the promise of democracy on the duchy level being restored, while the National Revolutionary Party votes no but due to their in ability to disagree inside the sane party have have officially abstained |
| Date | 20:59:45, January 31, 2016 CET | From | Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | OOC: PP: perhaps you'll be able to restore some support of the conservative population if you vote for this? |
| Date | 21:29:37, January 31, 2016 CET | From | Progress Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | OOC: we wouldn't back down on our principles |
| Date | 23:42:43, January 31, 2016 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | OOC: So Several game years after we establish a republic, you go and turn it back into a MONARCHY? This is unrealistic for RP, you could have at least waited several ingame decades and built it up. This is shoddy RP. |
| Date | 23:50:46, January 31, 2016 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | OOC: We shouldn't let the actions of the communist paramilitary ruin the republic, the republic has nothing to do with the communists. |
| Date | 00:00:32, February 01, 2016 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The people of Luthori cannot abide by a republic. They need strong leadership from a monarch. The Republic is why the communist were able to take over in the first place. I yield |
| Date | 00:04:37, February 01, 2016 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | Mr Speaker Absolute codswallop, the reason the communists caused havoc was thanks to undemocratic proposals that YOU and YOUR PARTY proposed, having the president choose mayors as opposed to them being locally elected, and it was YOU and YOUR party which legalized paramilitaries to even begin with. The leadership of a monarch would have made absolutely no difference whatsoever, you only have yourself to blame. Pinning your own shortcomings on other people, very childish and childlike! Dean Trump Leader of New Choice |
| Date | 00:14:35, February 01, 2016 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Giving more control to the central government is key for creating a united country! We cannot leave such important decisions in the hands of people who can be swayed by the populism being vomited out by parties like New Choice and the LPU. Additionally, our nation has a strong military tradition! Paramilitaries associated with political parties have been a staple of Luthori Politics since this nation's conception! Republicanism has left a vacuum for the communists, we the HSP are trying to plug it up! This government has proved inept at dealing with the communist threat, we the HSP, the largest Opposition party in this House have conducted negotiations to solve it! Where was Mr. Trump to offer solutions to this crisis? I'll tell you Mr. Speaker, he was there pointing fingers at other parties instead of offering solutions. Now, Mr. Speaker, with nothing in his soul but guilt for his and his party's incompetence he wants to blame the only solution to solve this crisis. Look around Mr. Choice, the fighting is lessening, a civil war has likely been avoided. We have won! I yield Casey Robertson Partyleader HSP |
| Date | 17:09:54, February 01, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | "HSP SCUM BAGS" yelled a young Red-Trooper "WE ARE THE DEMOCRATS YOU BANNED CITIES RIGHTS TO ELECT THEIR OWN MAYOR" he gritted his teeth "DO YOU KNOW THE FEELING OF BEJNG A SUBJECT AND NOT A CITIZEN?" He yelled "IT BREAKS THE HUMAN SPIRIT AND IF YOUR WITH THE WORKERS YOU'D UNDERSTAND!" He shouted followed by cheers from watchers "COMMUNISTS ACCEDE!" He yelled in a old Luthorian and it was reverbed back to him |
| Date | 20:21:19, February 01, 2016 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | Mr Speaker With your ridiculous logic Mr Robertson, then democracy is a bad thing as people "can be swayed by the populism vomited out by my party". With that logic, I could counter it that people are being swayed by your revoltingly restrictive civil rights policies. As for our solution, our solution is permanently ban paramilitaries, have tighter gun regulation permanently and GIVE OUR CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON BASIC MATTERS SUCH AS ELECTING A MAYOR! It was because citizens were no longer gifted the right to vote for their own mayors that this uprising happened IN THE FIRST PLACE! Dean Trump Leader of New Choice |
| Date | 02:30:17, February 02, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | "Mr Speaker" Elizabeth took up her hand to silence the solider "Trump is right, we have fought the police and the state because of your own authoritarian reforms, doesn't make it ok, yes, but you are pushing more and more young men onto the lines of the terrorist branches of what used to be the JUST AND BRAVE red-army and I'm afraid I can't stop them from this but what we can do is try to fix what their fighting against, for example extending democracy back to the duchies. Please I don't want to be pushed by my own party to rise against the "legitimate" state, I'm sorry to say but you must come off of your high horse and accept that your party has had a hand in this, for your lies and abuse of power. Must I remind all THE royalists that they are the authoritarians? We have been democrats since day one, and about halve of us don't believe in a government at all." Elizabeth Genn Leader of the LPU |
| Date | 02:30:37, February 02, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | "Mr Speaker" Elizabeth took up her hand to silence the solider "Trump is right, we have fought the police and the state because of your own authoritarian reforms, doesn't make it ok, yes, but you are pushing more and more young men onto the lines of the terrorist branches of what used to be the JUST AND BRAVE red-army and I'm afraid I can't stop them from this but what we can do is try to fix what their fighting against, for example extending democracy back to the duchies. Please I don't want to be pushed by my own party to rise against the "legitimate" state, I'm sorry to say but you must come off of your high horse and accept that your party has had a hand in this, for your lies and abuse of power. Must I remind all THE royalists that they are the authoritarians? We have been democrats since day one, and about halve of us don't believe in a government at all." Elizabeth Genn Leader of the LPU |
| Date | 02:30:48, February 02, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the Constitutional Correction (OOC: REAL VERSION) |
| Message | "Mr Speaker" Elizabeth took up her hand to silence the solider "Trump is right, we have fought the police and the state because of your own authoritarian reforms, doesn't make it ok, yes, but you are pushing more and more young men onto the lines of the terrorist branches of what used to be the JUST AND BRAVE red-army and I'm afraid I can't stop them from this but what we can do is try to fix what their fighting against, for example extending democracy back to the duchies. Please I don't want to be pushed by my own party to rise against the "legitimate" state, I'm sorry to say but you must come off of your high horse and accept that your party has had a hand in this, for your lies and abuse of power. Must I remind all THE royalists that they are the authoritarians? We have been democrats since day one, and about halve of us don't believe in a government at all." Elizabeth Genn Leader of the LPU |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 302 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 143 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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