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Bill: Give back power to the corporations and small businesses
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Right
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3987
Description[?]:
| Today small business owners and larger corporations are powerless to the power of the unions. That is something that we can not tolerate and is a large reason why not more international companies choose to come here. That is why the moderate party makes the following proposals |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Tax percentage of the profit made by corporations.
Old value:: 15
Current: 20
Proposed: 11
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Employer's rights in regards to firing striking workers.
Old value:: Government approval is needed before strikers can be fired.
Current: Employers can fire workers who are deemed to have gone on strike without reasonable reasons.
Proposed: Employers are free to fire workers who go on strike.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Secondary strike action.
Old value:: Only closely related trade unions can walk out on a sympathy strike in support of other striking workers.
Current: Any trade union can go on a sympathy strike in support of other striking workers.
Proposed: Secondary strike action is illegal. Workers and unions can only go on strike for their own pay and conditions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:20:16, February 19, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We disagree with the tax changes, but everything else seems in order. Humphrey III Lawson |
| Date | 20:25:30, February 19, 2016 CET | From |  Centrist Alliance | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Unions are needed now more than ever. The amount of people getting less pay than they should be getting is ridiculous. If anything we should support unions in the fight against corrupt big business. These two new parties are a real threat to the common worker. Thank you Raul Ryan Trade Candidate |
| Date | 20:28:29, February 19, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Unions are not needed. We are not a threat to the common worker, we are a threat to these corrupt unions. Unions consistently harm small business, as would an increased minimum wage. Humphrey III Lawson |
| Date | 20:49:51, February 19, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr Speaker To say that this party is a threat to workers just shows how far from reality these so called conservatives are! We want to give more people jobs rather than the unions more power to continue their mob rule of our economy and bussniness. We need people to question the unions and how they keep wages down and unemployment high! Francis Urquhart, leader of the moderate party |
| Date | 20:51:51, February 19, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Here Here! Several 3Right Members |
| Date | 21:50:21, February 19, 2016 CET | From | Centrist Alliance | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Yes I know. It's definitely ridiculous of us to say a party does not support Worker's for supporting this bill.. Oh wait... It isn't. Unions keep wages down? What kind of idiot came up with that fact? Trade unions have nothing to do with high unemployment. If anything they provide a structure for long term employment where people do not have to leave jobs in search of better working conditions. Raul Ryan Trade Candidate |
| Date | 21:51:45, February 19, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The major dents in small business caused by unions cannot be overstated. Humphrey III Lawson |
| Date | 22:11:26, February 19, 2016 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, These far-right parties should look around at the political landscape before they start proposing these ridiculous bills. First banning unions and now rolling back their right to strike? No, not with the SDL and the HSP as the top parties who keep the interests of the working class in mind. 3Right should go back to Selucia if don't want unions and the powers that they have here. And to Mr. Urquhart's point that Unions are the reason why foreign companies don't want to come here; we have recently ratified a treaty with the Rocc-Cola Company to franchise in our nation, and they even agreed to pay additional tax for the right to do so. The Moderates should read the legislative histories before they make outlandish claims. I yield Clare A. Palley HSP Whip |
| Date | 22:17:43, February 19, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr Speaker, You're a Hosian. Eliyahu said "A well man does not need a doctor". Humphrey III Lawson |
| Date | 22:29:18, February 19, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr Speaker How dares the whip from the so called conservative party call us a far right party? Can one not disagree with her without having such nonsense thrown at one? The unions are a big party of why people can't get jobs since the small bussniness simply can not keep up with all of their ludicrous demands. Wanting more people to be able to get off the government paycheck and to work does not make your far right! It makes you human. Francis Urquhart leader of the moderate party |
| Date | 22:31:46, February 19, 2016 CET | From | Centrist Alliance | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | OOC: I think you messed up there the Moderate Party... |
| Date | 22:35:18, February 19, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | OOC: ? |
| Date | 22:38:44, February 19, 2016 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, If 3Right wants to win elections they should tone down their arrogance. Their implication that our nation is a sick man and that they are the doctors is a foolish one at best. Our nation is one of the leading nations of Terra. In addition to the Moderates and FU looking at our legislative histories they should also read a newspaper. The HSP is not a conservative party in the traditional sense. We strive to combine moral conservatives and left wing economic policies, we are effective a communitarian, paternalistic, and monarchist party. ? Not that it matters anyway. The Moderates are and 3Right don't listen to what other parties tell them; much like children they whine and whine, while us responsible parties have to bring out the belt and send them to bed. I Yield, Clare A. Palley HSP Whip |
| Date | 22:41:17, February 19, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr Speaker, I'm not a child, you inhuman failure of a woman. Those not in the centre of a few issues are not clueless. We have factual evidence for our beliefs. Rhiannon Aurora 3Right Leader |
| Date | 22:47:16, February 19, 2016 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We call for the censure of the Ms. Aurora for not adhering to parliamentary conduct and insulting our whip Ms. Palley. We then wish to see this "Factual Evidence" that 3Right claims to have in their possession for their beliefs. I am particularly interested in the evidence they have which shows that Unions are made up of "Lazy Teenagers" or that they are corrupt. Please do show me the evidence since I am the Minister of Trade and Industry and after performing investigations I have found no evidence of corruption or membership of lazy teenagers! These parties just have an axe to grind, and they are doing at the expense of the working classes! Shame on them I say, shame on them! I yield Douglas Samuels Minister of Trade and Industry |
| Date | 22:49:47, February 19, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Yes I know that you are not conservative party Clare it is quite obvious. However I must blame it on technology that I missed this as it said that you where talking for the Neo so called conservative party. But yet still I find it rather upsetting that you can not see that people may have a different opinion than yours without being "far right" or acting like children. The ignorance of the socialists concerns me and it is clear that they do not value our democracy where it is okay to have different opinions! You are not a responsible party! You are simply in the back pocket of the unions! Francis Urquhart: Leader of the moderate party |
| Date | 22:52:53, February 19, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr Speaker, "The Ms. Aurora"? I'm not an object. 1. Unions are ruining public education: Every few years, it's the same old story. The teachers’ unions claim that public education in this country is dramatically underfunded and if they just had more money, they could turn it around. Taxpayer money then pours into our schools like a waterfall and....there's no improvement. A few years later, when people have forgotten the last spending spree on education, the process is repeated. 2. Unions are costing you billions of tax dollars: Let's put it plain and simple: Government workers shouldn't be allowed to unionize. Period. Why? Because you elect representatives to look out for your interests. It's obviously in your interest to pay as little as possible to government workers, to keep their benefits as low as possible, and to hire as few of them as possible to do the job. However, because the Hosian Socialist Party and the unions are in bed with each other, this entire process has been turned on its ear. Instead of looking out for your interests, Hosian Socialists try to hire as many government workers as possible, pay them as much as possible, and give them benefits that are as generous as possible, all so that union workers will do more to get them re-elected. 3. Unions are severely damaging whole industries: How is it that some business got into such lousy shape that they had to be closed? There's a simple answer: The unions. The massive pensions the companies paid out So, what happens when these pensions can't be paid? They will come to the taxpayers with their hands out. When they stroll forward with their beggar's bowl in hand, the Luthoran people should keep their wallets in their pockets. That may not seem fair, but the public sector union members have gotten a great deal at everyone else's expense for a long time and if somebody has to take a haircut, and they do, it should be the union members instead of the taxpayers they've been bilking for so long. Rhiannon Aurora 3Right Leader |
| Date | 22:53:56, February 19, 2016 CET | From | Centrist Alliance | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Maybe these new parties should shut up until they have a tiny bit of voting power? Banning trade unions is a far right idea. It's not ignorance the HSP are showing, it's respect for the common worker in this country. Raul Ryan Trade Candidate |
| Date | 22:54:48, February 19, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr Speaker, I doubt when you first came here people said you should shut up until you win seats. Rhiannon Aurora 3Right Leader |
| Date | 22:58:26, February 19, 2016 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, If it isn't what we said, it's definitely what we all thought. I yield Clare A. Palley HSP Whip Inhuman Failure of a Woman |
| Date | 23:02:49, February 19, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr Speaker The moderate party has made no claims to ban unions outright so I would ask Mr Ryan to get his facts straight before he opens his little mouth. And when it comes to the seats I would ask him to respect this country's law that says that we have a speaking right. It doesn't really matter if he likes it or not but if he respects our country then perhaps he should quit acting like a spoiled child. The moderate party sees the necessity for unions but we do take worry over how clear it is that the unions have most parties in here in their back pocket! We mist be able to debate this without having ludicrous accusations being thrown around Francis Urquhart leader of the moderate party |
| Date | 23:04:06, February 19, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Well did anyone say it to you, Palley? Rhiannon Aurora 3Right Leader |
| Date | 23:05:22, February 19, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | OOC: Haha! Touché, HSP. |
| Date | 23:12:15, February 19, 2016 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Ms. Aurora, Our party was strategic, we formed coalitions and made friends so that we could pass meaningful legislation. The HSP is smart, be like the HSP. I yield Clare Palley HSP Whip |
| Date | 23:13:51, February 19, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Be like bill spreads computer viruses. Rhiannon Aurora 3Right Leader A Real Threat to the Common Worker |
| Date | 23:20:00, February 19, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the Give back power to the corporations and small businesses |
| Message | OOC: Whoops! IRL reference! Can we just say there's a facebook thing in Luthori? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 211 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 289 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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