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Bill: Peace in Aloria
Details
Submitted by[?]: Union der Dundorfer Alorias
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3993
Description[?]:
After long times of political fights that resulted in the death of many Alorian citizens and brought our nation on the verge of a civil war we should be proud that we managed to negotiate a peace treaty. All that there's left to do now is to vote for it. ---Peace treaty between the political movements ANU and FWS/CPA--- 1. ANU leader Kunzer Miller has to excuse himself publicly to the deported CPA members and to the Alorian public. 3. Private property of ANU is used to repair damages caused by their attacks and for compensation for their victims. 4. Mr. Spiegler and the CPA leadership have to excuse themselves publicly for the deportation of ANU militants to Dorvik and their subsequent execution ibidem. 5. The party leaders of both CPA and ANU will hold a press conference to officially declare the scandal and violent unrests that still rage in some parts of Aloria as finished. Both will seal the affair with a handshake. This bill is considered as passed if more than half of the national legislature and both CPA and ANU vote in favour of it. If passed a world-wide press release will be published by the Llywydd/Präsident(in) informing the world of this accord between the parties of Aloria. Signed, Heinrich Willmersheim, president of the truth and reconciliation commission of Aloria |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 18:47:40, February 22, 2016 CET | From | Union der Dundorfer Alorias | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | The Alorian nation has to stand as one if we ever want to lead our country to a better future. |
Date | 21:13:42, February 22, 2016 CET | From | Democratic Party | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | No. Thanks. |
Date | 21:30:42, February 22, 2016 CET | From | Liberal Party (Plaid Ryddfrydol) | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | We have trouble with 4. |
Date | 01:12:08, February 23, 2016 CET | From | Conservative | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | The CPA takes issue with how the debate has been framed. We do not have a military wing and we have always complied with the laws of our great nation. We have already made a statement to the effect that we deeply regret the outcome of certain decisions that were made. So (5) is a fait accompli. As for (4), we cannot and will not agree. |
Date | 01:14:41, February 23, 2016 CET | From | Conservative | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | We will, however, note that Wolf Spiegler is retiring soon and does not seek a position in the legislature. But we do not want to negate the possibility of his return. The odds are still very slim but do exist. |
Date | 13:53:58, February 23, 2016 CET | From | Union der Dundorfer Alorias | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | FWS and ANP: Wolf Spiegler was after all responsible for the deportation of Alorian citizens. So there should be some sort of punishment for him and since both main parties involved in this scandal, FWS and ANU, should agree on this, we have to make sure that ANU will be in favour of it, too. And Mr. Spiegler isn't barred from working as ambassador or diplomat or just as Elder Statesman. And yes point 5 is already accomplished which doesn't mean that it's an important point that should be included in this treaty. |
Date | 13:58:53, February 23, 2016 CET | From | Union der Dundorfer Alorias | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | ANU: Why? This scandal and subsequent turmoil, that turned nearly into a civil war, needs to be put paid to. Your party was responsible for many agitated times in our nation. Mr. Rohm, you, who claims to always think of the best for Aloria, should be the first to accord with this treaty. |
Date | 14:04:00, February 23, 2016 CET | From | Union der Dundorfer Alorias | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | I also thought that it may be good if, when this treaty is ratified and abided to that the president would release a world-wide press release. I'll add that to the treaty. |
Date | 14:34:06, February 23, 2016 CET | From | Democratic Party | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | Ernst Rohm: 'No cooperation from our side. We are preparing for a revolution against the national unity cabinet. Our ranks are beeing armed and waiting for the CollectiveLeadership Council's orders. The next revolution Iis near.' |
Date | 16:58:36, February 23, 2016 CET | From | Liberal Party (Plaid Ryddfrydol) | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | While we agree that Speigler was responsible for the deportation of these criminals, I think it is important for everyone to note that it is legal to deport people, and that the people who were deported would have faced the death penalty here if the law was what it is now then. |
Date | 17:19:16, February 23, 2016 CET | From | Union der Dundorfer Alorias | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | ANP: But it's ethically questionable if it's alright to deport people into states where they will face death. It's a question of morals. Nothing stands in the way of Mr. Spiegler to still work inside the CPA. ANU: This will only lead to more deaths and you know that. If your current unwillingness to participate in the democratic process continues the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution of Aloria may ban the ANU entirely. |
Date | 17:40:28, February 23, 2016 CET | From | Liberal Party (Plaid Ryddfrydol) | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | These criminals were mass murderers. What they done was unethical. I think Mr Speigler done what he did in the best interests of Aloria. |
Date | 03:27:24, February 24, 2016 CET | From | ALORIAN NATIONAL CONGRESS PARTY (ANC) | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | We will stand but the side of wolf spiegler and will do what he asks ANC, WOLF was a close associate of GOLI Family and GOLI's always stand by the side of their aids. GOLI JAGAN VEER Hon. President DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF ALORIA |
Date | 03:27:25, February 24, 2016 CET | From | ALORIAN NATIONAL CONGRESS PARTY (ANC) | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | We will stand but the side of wolf spiegler and will do what he asks ANC, WOLF was a close associate of GOLI Family and GOLI's always stand by the side of their aids. GOLI JAGAN VEER Hon. President DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF ALORIA |
Date | 05:02:16, February 24, 2016 CET | From | Conservative | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | Conservative thanks the ANP and the ANC for their solidarity on this matter. We recommend that both ANP and ANC oppose the bill as it currently stands. We remark that Spiegler did nothing illegal and was unaware that the Dorvik Republic would issue execution orders. We were abiding our commitments to a treaty dating to the relevant civil war. The war criminals perpetrated heinous acts against civilians, immigrants and tourists alike and were wanted in Dorvik with regards to their crimes. We deported them, we repeat, out of compliance with foreign obligations. Their release would have been in contravention of international law. We will not support (4). We remark, however, that Spiegler has retired indefinitely and has no intention of returning to politics. But still, we do not want to commit to any restriction on his return to a political career - however remote it may be. |
Date | 14:57:31, February 24, 2016 CET | From | Union der Dundorfer Alorias | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | CPA: I fear that this bill won't pass at all if Mr. Spiegler won't suffer any punishment. Both sides in this conflict CPA and ANU have to suffer some kind of penalty for their roll in this dispute or ANU won't give their consent to any peace treaty. Mr. Spiegler will be recognised as what he is: a key personality in Alorian politics but what he did was wrong and that needs to be recognised as well. ANC: Our honorable president shouldn't be bound by party politics he or she should be independent and the president of all Alorians. To hastily take side isn't worthy of Aloria's highest citizen. |
Date | 15:43:03, February 24, 2016 CET | From | Conservative | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | NAP: I'll agree to (4) if and only if the leaders of the ANU are also subject to life sentences. They were complicit in heinous acts and deserve to be punished far more severely. |
Date | 15:44:40, February 24, 2016 CET | From | Conservative | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | Again, NAP: We fail to see how it is not presidential for a president to make a political stance. The ELP did the very same thing against Conservative recently. We, Conservative, applaud the right of the president - whomever it may be - to exercise their right to an opinion. |
Date | 16:37:49, February 24, 2016 CET | From | Liberal Party (Plaid Ryddfrydol) | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | We agree with the CPA's comments about the President. |
Date | 17:32:18, February 24, 2016 CET | From | Union der Dundorfer Alorias | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | We must suspend the current peace talks for an unknown period of time until the terrorist attacks on Gavonshire have been fully investigated. This bill may never pass but the times are to uncertain for predictions of any kind. We stand with democratic Aloria. |
Date | 15:58:35, February 25, 2016 CET | From | ALORIAN NATIONAL CONGRESS PARTY (ANC) | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | After the culprits of the terror attack were sent to trial we ourselves will initiate the peace talks till then wolf spiegler will be free and will not be expelled out of country but his moves were closely observed by ALORIAN INTELLIGENCE. Hope conservatives will accept this |
Date | 14:46:39, February 29, 2016 CET | From | Democratic Party | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | I agree to those proposals. |
Date | 03:04:26, March 03, 2016 CET | From | Conservative | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | Conservative has decided to oppose. We urge alliance members to follow suit. |
Date | 05:17:16, March 05, 2016 CET | From | Conservative | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | We approve the revised bill. Contingent on there not being any further changes, it has our approval and support. |
Date | 08:40:52, March 05, 2016 CET | From | Democratic Party | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | About 1.: Both Nesselrode and Rohm died 4 years ago. |
Date | 08:54:15, March 05, 2016 CET | From | Union der Dundorfer Alorias | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | ANU: Right we can scrap that point, too. |
Date | 08:56:48, March 05, 2016 CET | From | Union der Dundorfer Alorias | To | Debating the Peace in Aloria |
Message | After a long time of difficult negotiations, we are finally able to present this bill to the Senedd! This is a wonderful day for Aloria and the whole world! |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||||
yes |
Total Seats: 468 | |||||||
no | Total Seats: 0 | |||||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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