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Bill: State media reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Right
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3988
Description[?]:
| We in the moderate party sees the problems with state run media. The rise of undemocratic parties is a clear threat to our democracy and they will use this for propaganda. The state should have nothing to do with the media of this nation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Television stations.
Old value:: The government subsidises a national TV station for educational and informational purposes; other private non-subsidised TV stations are allowed.
Current: All television media are private.
Proposed: All television media are private.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Radio stations.
Old value:: The government subsidises independent non-profit-making cooperatives for educational and informational purposes; other private non-subsidised radio stations are allowed.
Current: All radio stations are private.
Proposed: All radio stations are private.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:10:35, February 24, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the State media reform |
| Message | Mr Speaker, As said in the description of this bill this is done to make sure that undemocratic parties can not use the state run media for propaganda in case the seize power in the next election. It will give us a more free and independent media and that will lead to a more informed people. Francis Urquhart leader of the moderate party |
| Date | 16:07:30, February 24, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the State media reform |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We agree with this, but your reasoning is borderline mentally ill. How can a party out of government use state-run media to propagate its message? How will allowing anyone to start a radio station prevent that? Couldn't they just start their own TV station? Larissa Newton |
| Date | 16:57:37, February 24, 2016 CET | From | National Party of Luthori | To | Debating the State media reform |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, These stations are funded by the taxpayer, and are given government oversight regarding funding. However, it is not a propaganda piece for the ruling party. The issue the Nationals have with is whether taxpayers should be on the hook for these stations, and maybe the private sector can do a better job at delivering the news. |
| Date | 17:09:56, February 24, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the State media reform |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Yes, exactly. We support this bill, but disagree with the Moderate Party's reasoning. Larissa Newton |
| Date | 17:24:16, February 24, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the State media reform |
| Message | Mr Speaker As said previously we have seen the growth of a undemocratic party who easily can use just that subsidized national television for propaganda purposes. We are full aware of the fact that party's outside the government have no power to do this but the undemocratic party is growing rapidly and this is simply to make sure that our freedom remains and that our citizens can't be exposed to their propaganda in case they grow large enough. I hope I have explained it well enough now for Larissa... Francis Urquhart leader of the moderate party |
| Date | 18:01:03, February 24, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the State media reform |
| Message | Mr Speaker, But how will privatisation make that less likely? They can't use the national broadcaster, they're not in power. Larissa Newton |
| Date | 18:13:12, February 24, 2016 CET | From |  Centrist Alliance | To | Debating the State media reform |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The Moderates keep talking of undemocratic and political elites. They seem to believe everyone who is not a Capitalist party is one of the above. According to the Moderates there are more than one undemocratic party in Luthori. I don't think the Moderates understand that privatising these things will change anything. If a 'undemocratic party' wants to take control of the media once they take power they will. It clearly says independent for both. The CUP can support the privatisation of radio but believe there should be one state owned TV station. Mary Cargill Finance Candidate |
| Date | 18:57:16, February 24, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the State media reform |
| Message | Mr Speaker Once more it seems that I need to explain to Larissa. They are not in power yet.. But they are growing rapidly and may soon be. Francis Urquhart leader of the moderate party |
| Date | 23:13:01, February 26, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the State media reform |
| Message | "Mr. Speaker" "You talk about us, may I remind you that we already have private radio stations, TV channel. and a newspaper, we are not in need of support from the state. If you're talking about the parties' against this you are generalizing and proving your hateful tenets. The HSP, SDL, CUP, and the LPU, aren't 'undemocratic' I disagree with all 3 of the others but I don't pull the oppressed card, or the authoritarian card, you generalize all communists, all socialists, and any one who doesn't agree with you. Pretty much you act like you can trump is with lies and insults, when this only excites our bases." Vladimir Armstrong Vice-Leader of the LPI |
| Date | 00:06:56, February 27, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the State media reform |
| Message | Mr Speaker I have not said a single thing against the CUP SDL or the HSP when it comes to democracy. I know that they respect our democracy..But when it comes to you. Well that's another thing.. Francis Urquhart leader of the moderate party |
| Date | 08:23:06, February 27, 2016 CET | From | Centrist Alliance | To | Debating the State media reform |
| Message | OOC: The Moderate Party please stop now this has gone on for too long. |
| Date | 08:27:33, February 27, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the State media reform |
| Message | OOC: I am serious when i said that i didn't start this. I laid forward a budget and you went off the wall knowing it would serve you well with other party's. |
| Date | 08:30:09, February 27, 2016 CET | From | Centrist Alliance | To | Debating the State media reform |
| Message | OOC: Bud I ain't gonna argue with you. I know you're probably feeling quite bad but I personally am trying to keep it role play only. I don't want you leaving or anything. I'm sorry if I've offended you in anyway. I didn't involve myself with striking. |
| Date | 08:42:39, February 27, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the State media reform |
| Message | OOC: God no I dont feel bad and no one else have offended me. Perhaps Francis but not me :) I was quite loving it and that something was happening so don't worry about me :) I'm not gonna leave only one party has asked me that :) but no need to worry |
| Date | 15:16:39, February 27, 2016 CET | From | Centrist Alliance | To | Debating the State media reform |
| Message | OOC: don't worry I got a very unwelcome welcome (If that makes sense) I got asked to leave by multiple parties :) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 213 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 287 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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