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Bill: Military Intelligence
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Liberal Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2174
Description[?]:
| We have limited intelligence/data for the military at the current time. Actually, we have too small of a defense budget to begin with, but with more military data at least we would be able to stay one step ahead of any enemies. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation maintains no intelligence agency.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Proposed: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:56:07, January 21, 2006 CET | From | Devout Ecologists Party | To | Debating the Military Intelligence |
| Message | Ahum, we are heavily opposed to this, because we actually got the ruling of no intelligence agency in the first place there. Second, your argument does not hold water. We do not have any enemies at all! Our military does not need intelligence/data, because we do not fight anybody, we do not have to defend from anybody, we have nothing to fear! I am ALL for giving defense no budget at all! As in nothing, zip, nada. We have already abolished defence industries, and a military is highly unnecesairily for us. |
| Date | 17:05:14, January 21, 2006 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the Military Intelligence |
| Message | We have no enemies and no need for a military only because we are a small nation at the moment. The very moment we become large enough to warrant other nation's attentions, you can be assured they will come knocking on our door. In a perfect world, we wouldn't need a military and a utopian society could be attained. This, however, is not a perfect world. |
| Date | 22:17:33, January 21, 2006 CET | From |  Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the Military Intelligence |
| Message | It's better than nothing, we support. |
| Date | 01:26:42, January 22, 2006 CET | From | Lutte Féministe de Libération | To | Debating the Military Intelligence |
| Message | We support, and denounce the parties who would sacrifice the great nation of Rildanor on an altar of hollow, dogmatic utopian pipe dreams! |
| Date | 19:00:52, January 22, 2006 CET | From | Devout Ecologists Party | To | Debating the Military Intelligence |
| Message | If you don't do anything to go towards that dream, that dream will never come true. We support the dream and hope it may one day come true. A perfect state, a utopia. Give up that dream, and then that dream will not come true. You will just worsen the nation. A perfect shame it is then. |
| Date | 20:59:35, January 22, 2006 CET | From | Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the Military Intelligence |
| Message | It's one thing to dream, and it's another to hallucinate. You are forgetting the REALITIES of this world, that it's a dangerous and distrustful one. |
| Date | 08:09:37, January 23, 2006 CET | From | Devout Ecologists Party | To | Debating the Military Intelligence |
| Message | Then enlighten me and show me where I can find example of the dangerous and distrustful world this is. I can't say what other nations are like, but Rildanor has not been a war as far as I know, we do not have any hostile contacts and we may be a small nation (are we?) but even if we grew, hostality does not automatically increase. Only if we make it so. We can make the dream a reality, if only we put the effort in it to make it so. We can be examples of how it should be and expand the dream into reality. Furthermore, currently we have no intelligence, defence, etc, and we are not being attacked, the world is not being dangerous or distrustful to us, and as long as we put effort in it, that can stay. Only by forsaking what is, shall the dream never exist long enough in reality to become real enough. Kill what is, and kill what shall be. I oppose that. Long live the dream, who is currently not a dream, but a reality, however short it may still last. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 300 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 200 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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