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Bill: A Union of Nations
Details
Submitted by[?]: Radical Liberal Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 4022
Description[?]:
| Colleagues, Honourable friends and members. Today I stand before you as Prime Senator and bring forward the motion that the political union between our great nation and Great Indrala. This historic union once stood greatly a union of prosperity and cultural enrichment, we believe now is the time to restore this once great union, our nations can once again benefit one another, we are fighting a war together, and they can help us develop and we can once again share a cultural unity. I can confirm I have been in contact with the leader of Great Indrala, Duke Liu Jianguo, we have discussed the arrangements for such a union. The position of President would remain elected, although they would take on the position of a Viceroy and would carry out much of the same roles as they do now, with the monarch of Great Indrala playing purely a ceremonial one. We are equal partners in this proposed union, no one is more equal than the other. I present this motion to the house. Wu Yifan, Prime Senator. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:06:21, March 06, 2016 CET | From | Partido Popular | To | Debating the A Union of Nations |
| Message | How about the other ethnic groups in our nation? |
| Date | 16:11:37, March 06, 2016 CET | From | Liberal Socialist Party | To | Debating the A Union of Nations |
| Message | Mr Speaker Our party simply cannot back the implementation of any form of monarchy to our nation, as such we shall oppose this measure. |
| Date | 21:05:38, March 06, 2016 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party | To | Debating the A Union of Nations |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We understand the sentiments of the LSP, although we insist the monarch would only take a ceremonial role in the nation and the Viceroy would remain the central democratic figure within the nation. On the point of the Partido Popular, as is current all cultures are equal in status and law, we only seek to re-establish a historical union which we feel at the current moment would suit us to re-enter. Wu Yifan, Prime Senator |
| Date | 22:13:12, March 06, 2016 CET | From | Liberal Socialist Party | To | Debating the A Union of Nations |
| Message | Mr Speaker That purely ceremonial role is still a step too far. This will undermine our nation to Indrala, Gaduridos is a fully independent nation and should remain as such! This is an unappealing move to a increasingly diverse nation. According to our most recent census, only 15% of the population are even descended from Indralians! Installing a monarchy from Indrala is a ridiculous move which we shall fully oppose! Videl Peña LSP Leader (OOC: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=446686) |
| Date | 22:32:04, March 06, 2016 CET | From |  姬恩黨 (Jien Faction) 🌄 | To | Debating the A Union of Nations |
| Message | The Hon. Mr. Peña, On behalf of Indrala, I must make some clarifications to your points. First, sharing a monarch will not undermine Gaduridos and make it subservient to Indrala, nor will it make Indrala subservient to Gaduridos. Quite simply, both nations would share a head of state that would equally belong to both nations, as in the past. Second, the history of Indrala and Gaduridos are intertwined. During Free Gaduridos, the Indralan monarch was granted by the republican government the title Hegemon of Gaduridos and Defender of the Gaduri Gao-Showans as a sign of fraternal friendship, recognizing the joint history between both nations. Later on, the Gaduri peoples made the Indralan monarch Hegemon-King of Gaduridos and joint head of state with Indrala. Furthermore, Indralan settlers were the first individuals to found a civilization in what is now Gaduridos, giving Indralan peoples a significant role in the founding of Gaduridos, further highlighting the bond between our two nations. At the end of the day, sharing monarchs will completely and fully preserve the independence and sovereignty of both nations, while highlighting their joint histories. The future heir to the throne of Indrala would be more than happy to marry a Gaduri women to inject greater diversity and representativeness into the monarchy and make it more palatable to certain parties, showing great respect for the Gaduri people. Diao Yang Indralan Ambassador to Gaduridos |
| Date | 22:48:43, March 06, 2016 CET | From | Liberal Socialist Party | To | Debating the A Union of Nations |
| Message | Mr Diao Yang Firstly, the monarch in question though will of course originate from Indrala and been seen mostly as a symbol of Indrala more than Gaduridos due to the longer length of time ruling in Indrala. Secondly that's exactly what it is, history. The "bond" was broken for a reason. The people of Gaduridos no longer wanted an out of date system, they wanted complete democracy. This point highlights exactly one of the main points that is wrong and immoral with monarchy. "More than happy to marry a Gaduri woman" indeed. The monarchs aren't even allowed to marry for love by the looks of it, they are forced to marry for the sake of political gain. Monarchy is outdated, expensive, and frankly ridiculous in this day and age. Our party and may Gaduridans fully reject this proposal, thank you very much! *round of applause and cheering from LSP Senators* Videl Peña LSP Leader |
| Date | 14:01:01, March 07, 2016 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party | To | Debating the A Union of Nations |
| Message | Mr Speaker, and Colleagues, We will be putting this bill to vote within the next parliament when the vacated seats are filled. The bill will require a two-thirds majority to pass due to its constitutional status. This puts the threshold for passing at 500 Senators voting for the bill. Feliciano Valderrama Leader of the Senate. |
| Date | 22:26:03, March 07, 2016 CET | From | Liberal Socialist Party | To | Debating the A Union of Nations |
| Message | Mr Speaker When that time comes, we will be enthusiastically voting against! Videl Peña LSP Leader |
| Date | 05:13:55, March 10, 2016 CET | From | Partido Popular | To | Debating the A Union of Nations |
| Message | We reject this deal! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 200 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 450 |
| Random fact: Cultural Protocols should generally be reflective of RP conducted within the nation and should not significantly alter or modify the ethnic, religious or linguistic composition without considerable and reasonable role-play or other justification. |
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