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Bill: Axis Mundi Anakrousite Agenda (iii)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Commonwealth Workers Army
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2175
Description[?]:
| Axis Mundi Anakrousite Agenda: Destroy the evil influence of superstition. Religion is conditioning. Treat the disease. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Current: Religious schools are not allowed.
Proposed: Religious schools are not allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:53:48, January 22, 2006 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Anakrousite Agenda (iii) |
| Message | While our party is officially atheist and secular, we object, on the grounds that despite we support the separation of church and state, that by banning such educational institutions you are limiting the choice people have in their right to choose their preferred educational institution. That's why a two-tiered system works. The private schools would be optionally religious and public would remain secular. Another suggestion is that maybe religious schools are regulated. |
| Date | 03:08:38, January 22, 2006 CET | From | Likaton Fascist Front | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Anakrousite Agenda (iii) |
| Message | Needless to say, our position on this can safely be speculated. |
| Date | 19:48:12, January 22, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Anakrousite Agenda (iii) |
| Message | Axis Mundi Anakrousite does not necessarily, believe that it is necessary to outlaw ALL religious schools. However, since religion is such a subjective issue, there IS no way to 'regulate' religious schools. Religion should not BE in our schools. It should stay in churches, where decent people do not have to come into contact with it. |
| Date | 11:39:50, January 23, 2006 CET | From | Right Wing Liberals Party | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Anakrousite Agenda (iii) |
| Message | No. |
| Date | 14:55:35, January 23, 2006 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Anakrousite Agenda (iii) |
| Message | 'Decent" people do not have to come into contact with religious schools if they do not wish to; but under the current system they have the right to do so if they wish. |
| Date | 17:05:19, January 23, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Anakrousite Agenda (iii) |
| Message | Resppnse to the RLP: But, WHY should 'religion' have ANY place in ANY school? What purpose do churches serve, if we are teaching superstition in our serious education system? |
| Date | 17:14:24, January 23, 2006 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Anakrousite Agenda (iii) |
| Message | One man's superstition is another man's truth - the belief that there is no God is just as much an act of faith as the belief that there is one. People should have the right to have their children taught in a fashion which supports their belief systems. |
| Date | 17:22:55, January 23, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Anakrousite Agenda (iii) |
| Message | Response to the RLP: A man's quest for truth, is his affair. It has no business in the public eye. Thus, 'superstition' or 'truth', when one is discussing something that MUST, by it's very nature, be subjective, there is no justification for trying to make that thing 'objective'. Also - the RLP misunderstands the Atheist agenda of Axis Mundi Anakrousite. AMA does NOT deny the existence of 'god'... they simply do not accept that there IS a 'god'. It is not a faith based on lack, it is a lack of faith. AMA does not attempt to force a 'truth' onto anyone. They are not arguing for school to teach that "THERE IS NO GOD". All they ask, is that the matter NOT be in schools at all. Yes - the parent has the 'right' to have their children indoctrinated into whichever backwater cult they wish... but that SHOULD NOT be the job of the schools. A parent who wishes his child to learn the ways of his/her 'superstition', should teach the child... or should allow the appropriate venue (Church, NOT school) to do it for them. |
| Date | 18:00:16, January 23, 2006 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Anakrousite Agenda (iii) |
| Message | We accept the correction of our understanding of the AMA agenda; and agree that there is no place in the public schools for religious teaching. We do believe that it is the right of people to set up their own schools; where they can teach their own beliefs to their own children. Further, when coupled with other AMA sponsered legislation which would ban religions completely, there will be no appropiate venue in which religion can be taught. |
| Date | 18:06:25, January 23, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Anakrousite Agenda (iii) |
| Message | Not strictly true. The parent is still allowed to inflict that particular form of abuse, within the confines of their own home. Just, not in the street, or anywhere else 'public' that it might spread it's evil contagion. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 159 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 341 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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