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Bill: Defend the Nation
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2057
Description[?]:
| To many liberal reforms have been passed of late. It is the desire of the Conservative Monday Club to repair the damage done to our country. The spirit of free enterprise has been crushed by an overbearing state, if the parties of the realm do not respond to this bill, then methinks the Republic of Darnussia will fall to the wiles of communism! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy.
Old value:: All agricultural operations are state-owned and operated.
Current: The government denies subsidy assistance to farmers.
Proposed: The government subsidises agriculture based on market demand for the crop being grown.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Radio stations.
Old value:: All radio stations are owned by the state.
Current: All radio stations are private.
Proposed: The government subsidises a national radio station for educational and informational purposes; other private non-subsidised radio stations are allowed.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Television stations.
Old value:: All television stations are owned by the state.
Current: All television media are private.
Proposed: The government subsidises a national TV station for educational and informational purposes; other private non-subsidised TV stations are allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:05:21, May 23, 2005 CET | From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Defend the Nation |
| Message | What can I say? No. |
| Date | 11:13:45, May 23, 2005 CET | From | Liberated Party | To | Debating the Defend the Nation |
| Message | Yes, yes, and yes. |
| Date | 11:27:02, May 23, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Defend the Nation |
| Message | whats this got to do with defending the nation? you are making false claims. |
| Date | 22:35:15, May 23, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Defend the Nation |
| Message | defending the nation from state ownership, there is a fine line between nation and state, being a communist you would not see that though! |
| Date | 10:26:03, May 24, 2005 CET | From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Defend the Nation |
| Message | The nation is the state, the state is the nation. Because this bill sets out to destroy the state it also sets out to destroy the nation. |
| Date | 11:57:07, May 24, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Defend the Nation |
| Message | alas, to think the state is the nation is truly sad. The nation is its people, the state is the means of governance! |
| Date | 12:14:42, May 24, 2005 CET | From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the Defend the Nation |
| Message | The state is the expression of the people, as the state is accountable to the people it is the property of the people. Therefore the current system is far more democratic than widespread privitisations. |
| Date | 15:14:40, May 24, 2005 CET | From | Liberated Party | To | Debating the Defend the Nation |
| Message | The State is a mechanism for removing the natural liberties of the people, which make up the nation. Fewer state monopolies means greater rights for the nation. |
| Date | 19:02:40, May 24, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Defend the Nation |
| Message | No, capitalism is oppresion! (all i have to say about it) |
| Date | 19:39:55, May 24, 2005 CET | From | Liberated Party | To | Debating the Defend the Nation |
| Message | Yes, for allowing people a choice is certainly an evil act which lessens their status as humans... no, Communist logic continues to confound us. |
| Date | 21:35:01, May 24, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Workers Commune | To | Debating the Defend the Nation |
| Message | I'll vote no, the TV stations are still independant, right? |
| Date | 21:40:15, May 24, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Defend the Nation |
| Message | yes, just state owned. They can ashow whatever they want untill some nut aproves a censorship-bill |
| Date | 21:41:04, May 24, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Defend the Nation |
| Message | liberated: choice? hah! Choice between nike or Adidas is no choice... |
| Date | 21:41:35, May 24, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Defend the Nation |
| Message | Capitalism leaves no choice, or you oppres or you are oppresed. Loan slaves... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 265 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 324 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 103 |
| Random fact: In cases where a party has no seat, the default presumption should be that the party is able to contribute to debates in the legislature due to one of its members winning a seat at a by-election. However, players may collectively improvise arrangements of their own to provide a satisfying explanation for how parties with no seats in the legislature can speak and vote there. |
| Random quote: "I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification; one day right there in Alabama, little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers." - Martin Luther King Jr. |