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Bill: The Banning and Dismantlement of the Conservative Right
Details
Submitted by[?]: Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 4013
Description[?]:
| The ACRU including the HSP is now a majority, there for it is high time we deal with biggest threat to both Social Freedom and stable Economics, the CR, Art 1: The CR and any offshoots shall be suppressed, although Normal CR voters will be left to have a political choice and career. Art 2: Current and past CR Leaders and Officals are by Law not allowed to have a political career. (Sorry CR, but you'll have to inactivate if this passes) |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:55:15, April 12, 2016 CET | From | National Party of Luthori | To | Debating the The Banning and Dismantlement of the Conservative Right |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, This is an absurd proposition. Do the socialists really believe that you can ban the CR because you disagree with them? I yield. The Rt Hon. Jack O'Leary Minister of Defense |
| Date | 22:03:29, April 12, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the The Banning and Dismantlement of the Conservative Right |
| Message | OOC: I believe this is against game rules. |
| Date | 22:04:07, April 12, 2016 CET | From | United Centre | To | Debating the The Banning and Dismantlement of the Conservative Right |
| Message | Mr Speaker, This goes against freedom of speech. Ryan Tarquinii Unity MP |
| Date | 22:10:09, April 12, 2016 CET | From | Imperial Conservative Union (IA) | To | Debating the The Banning and Dismantlement of the Conservative Right |
| Message | OOC: Anything like this would require a 2/3rd vote. Although it cannot be targeted against any particular player or party and must be directed at an action or ideology. For example. You could ban and have enforced by moderation that there are no communist parties or republican parties in Luthori. Players must either choose to re-brand, fight a realistic civil war (which in our case would be a riot with sticks), or disband (either willingly or by Moderation). Another would be that any vote brought forward to remove the monarchy that fails would result in either an RP or disbandment by moderation. Again, however, it cannot be targeted. Now I don't believe you meant it to be here and while ignorance of the rules not an excuse, I don't believe you, LUP, were meaning to be malicious. Therefore, I am getting ahead of anyone "over blowing" this and calling Moderation by pointing this stuff out here and now. In the future please keep this in mind, for I don't want to have to deal with moderation investigating over something like this in our current era of "crazy internal politics." IC: Mr. Speaker, This is a pointless waste of time. I yield. |
| Date | 22:15:39, April 12, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the The Banning and Dismantlement of the Conservative Right |
| Message | OOC: I believed it was possible to ban a single party, and no, I wasn't trying to target the CR as a player |
| Date | 22:22:33, April 12, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the The Banning and Dismantlement of the Conservative Right |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The Communists prove who they really are here! Trying to ban me and my party. taking away the power from our voters. How dare you and what gives you the right? Never have i ever been so shocked in my life. We are a democracy! Not your little dictatorship! Imperial Chancellor George William Urquhart |
| Date | 22:23:50, April 12, 2016 CET | From | Imperial Conservative Union (IA) | To | Debating the The Banning and Dismantlement of the Conservative Right |
| Message | OOC: You can, but it would have to be ideologically based or actions based. Like my example. If I banned all communist parties, and you are the only communist party it is targeting a single party, but also leaving room for you to change your character per se. It was more your word choice in this that made it wrong, not the objective you were trying to achieve (in my opinion). |
| Date | 22:28:03, April 12, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the The Banning and Dismantlement of the Conservative Right |
| Message | OOC: well I'll think about that in the future then, and I'll say it, I am sorry CR, I did something wrong and I'll try and make sure I keep my side of the OOC tension down... |
| Date | 22:41:33, April 12, 2016 CET | From |  Moderation | To | Debating the The Banning and Dismantlement of the Conservative Right |
| Message | Just to clarify matters in terms of the Game Rules here (see http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6363)... There are two particular considerations to take into account in section 22 on RP laws. The first is: "22.4 The following types of RP law are specifically identified as laws which will be enforced by Moderation: 22.4.1 RP laws which, with substantial and convincing role-play justification, impose measures against specific parties or types of parties or characters and types of characters. This may include banning a party or arresting and punishing a character. " So a party can be banned, but to do so requires substantial and convincing role-play justification. Also bear in mind this: "22.3 The following types of RP law are specifically disallowed and will be considered void: [...] 22.3.6 RP laws which are motivated primarily by antagonism towards another player." So you can't ban a party just because you have an issue with the player who is behind it. It looks like this bill is going to fail anyway, but you might want to bear all of this in mind for future reference. Any questions/concerns, please don't hesitate to ask. Regards, Aquinas (Moderation) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 613 | |||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 52 |
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