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Bill: Religion
Details
Submitted by[?]: Falanges Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 4054
Description[?]:
| Yes for making our religion the dominant one! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: People are required to dress according to religious codes
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Current: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, and membership is mandatory.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are encouraged.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are encouraged.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:12:45, July 05, 2016 CET | From | Liberal Party | To | Debating the Religion |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, the people of this Empire can worship whoever, whatever, wherever, whenever, and however they want. An abridgement of our democratic values, this is what this policy is all about. This bill should FALL! (cheers from the Liberal bench) I yield. Jennifer Parks MP |
| Date | 16:24:54, July 05, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the Religion |
| Message | "Mr. Speaker" "Back in our old days we supported banning religion, but slowly our party became secular. I have a question for the Hosian 'Democratic' Parties, would you like it if a Revolution had taken place and all forms of religion banned? Or another religion establishes itself here by force and forces you to be a member? If you get ten years of state religion then the LPU should get ten years of state atheism, right? Oh I forgot you don't like the repercussions of passing insane reforms." James Huston LPU Leader |
| Date | 16:26:18, July 05, 2016 CET | From | Falanges Party | To | Debating the Religion |
| Message | Clear instructions have been given to the Security Services, Police and Falanges Support Units to monitor the Liberals HQs as they are falling more and more into the category of "Organizations that might try to destabilize the Nation" Beware Liberals, this is the last warning. |
| Date | 16:28:51, July 05, 2016 CET | From | Falanges Party | To | Debating the Religion |
| Message | The picture is now clear: three parties now represent the enemies of the Nation: LPU, LPP and the Liberals. No effort should be spared to put those parties in the right place they belong to. Our patience and the police patience is reaching its limit. |
| Date | 16:33:19, July 05, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the Religion |
| Message | OOC: Falanges I think your going abit to far, I'm an IA member, the Liberals haven't every done or even said anything partially dangerous and the Progressives haven't ether, I understand your RPing as a fascist or National Socialist but you don't have the power to declare any one officially a threat to the nation. |
| Date | 16:43:28, July 05, 2016 CET | From | Falanges Party | To | Debating the Religion |
| Message | OOC: First of all I am free to give an opinion saying who is and is not an ally or a threat to a nation. A political party can give an opinion and strong statements. Second of all, the party holds the Ministry of Internal Affairs and I am emphasizing on the role the Ministry is playing (though maybe it is not allowed to play such roles, therefore other parties can criticize the Falanges for doing so). Part of the RPing I am doing is to show the excesses the Falanges are doing in their Ministry. btw why didint anyone criticize the fact we have a pseudo militia called Falanges Support Units? |
| Date | 17:08:06, July 05, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the Religion |
| Message | OOC: I was thinking about that, well yes. I'll make a bill later that lists all the laws you broke. |
| Date | 17:26:10, July 05, 2016 CET | From | Liberal Party | To | Debating the Religion |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, we think that the Falanges party threatening our RIGHT to speak our minds is a breach of peaceful co-existence and our right to EXIST. I guess the Falanges hasn't seen a democracy yet. Or perhaps they are naive and backward enough to think these statements threaten us, We dare them, Mr. Speaker! Go on, make our day! Harry McFarrow MP Leader of the Opposition |
| Date | 20:03:36, July 05, 2016 CET | From | Falanges Party | To | Debating the Religion |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We insist on our right to condemn the unpatriotic stances taken by the mentioned trio. By behaving as such, the trio LPP LPU and LP are destroying the nation. We promise Mr. Speaker not to remain silent on their behavior and we will fight back. For God, Nation and People |
| Date | 00:02:51, July 06, 2016 CET | From | Luthori Progressive Party | To | Debating the Religion |
| Message | OOC: I am supporting this bill purely for RP reasons. If the name of the country is the "Holy" Luthori Empire, it only makes sense that there is a strong religious element. Since I presume the word "Holy" will never be removed from the country name (which is my preference), we might as well go with a mandatory state religion (otherwise Luthori wouldn't be very "holy" wouldn't it?) |
| Date | 01:27:52, July 06, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the Religion |
| Message | OOC: uh, no, that's the worst argument, just vote no, this isn't progressive and will be removed soon... I mean I can just cut all ties with all parties and be as obstructionist as possible (because this is how Communist Parties are RL) or I could RP sensibly. |
| Date | 01:30:59, July 06, 2016 CET | From | Luthori Progressive Party | To | Debating the Religion |
| Message | OOC: Don't worry LPU. the LPP is very secular otherwise. We'll be introducing our own bills soon. |
| Date | 01:45:42, July 06, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the Religion |
| Message | OOC: No, you will face hell for this. I'm okay with the ICU voting how it normally does but this is unacceptable LPP |
| Date | 07:59:50, July 06, 2016 CET | From | Falanges Party | To | Debating the Religion |
| Message | Victory!!!!! Glory to our Nation, Glory to our Religion! Our supporters are invited to gather around our HQs to celebrate, carrying the National Flag and the Party Flag. Congratulations and thanks for all the Nationals who voted yes! Yes we did it!! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 318 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 240 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 107 |
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