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Bill: Prison Labour Reform Act (Fourth Reading)

Details

Submitted by[?]: United Liberal Alliance

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 2058

Description[?]:

Once again, we ask Parliament to reconsider this bill
(OOC: Once we get some new proposals and legislative options then this continual resubmitting of the same bill won't be necessary!!!)

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date15:27:05, May 25, 2005 CET
FromPartiya Nacionalnogo Progressa
ToDebating the Prison Labour Reform Act (Fourth Reading)
MessageForth reading? Heh :)

Date21:35:29, May 25, 2005 CET
FromConservative Party of Telamon
ToDebating the Prison Labour Reform Act (Fourth Reading)
MessageLook i'm sorry UCA, We think this is a very necessary step.

Not all criminals can be rehabilitated, let the prisoners serve out their sentence helping us out, rather then them lazying around do nothing.

If they commited a crime, which can be token back (like robbery), maybe we can work something out.

In the meanwhile i ask, that you stop putting this up for legislature, this is not barbaric in any way, as we are not getting them to mine or smelt steel and what not.

Date21:52:16, May 25, 2005 CET
FromUnited Liberal Alliance
ToDebating the Prison Labour Reform Act (Fourth Reading)
MessageIt is barbaric as it is forced labour - the law doesn't stipulate that you cannot force them to mine, or dig canals etc. (like Stalin's gulags). It is a violation of human rights and is not civilised. Also, they are not lazing around doing nothing as there is an education programme and they are able to work and as they will gain skills and priviliges by doing so as well as a small amount of money, that is an incentive to work. The fact that we are continually returned to power with an increased number of seats suggests to us that the people agree with our policies and therefore we will continue to propose them (+ there is nothing else to propose at the moment!!)

Date02:04:08, May 26, 2005 CET
FromConservative Party of Telamon
ToDebating the Prison Labour Reform Act (Fourth Reading)
MessageThe law also doesn't state, how much we pay to keep them locked up, i can easily say that our taxes are 100% because of them, and you wouldn't be able to prove me wrong.

And if you feel as if there is nothing else to propose, how about Gay Marriage?

The ultimate paradox, yet it's legal.

But i will save my comments for that later, once you our out of power.

Date10:12:06, May 26, 2005 CET
FromUnited Liberal Alliance
ToDebating the Prison Labour Reform Act (Fourth Reading)
MessageNo I couldn't prove you wrong about taxes, but neither therefore can you make such assertions.
On gay marriage, I see no reason why if two members of the same sex are totally committed to each other in the same way that a man and a woman can be, and wish to live together, they should not. The state should recognise them in the same way as they recognise a union between a man and a woman and should therefore be entitled to the same state benefits relating to inheritance etc. This seems only fair to me. Marriage as you see it, conducted in a church, is a matter for the churches and religious leaders, not the state - if they wish only to permit men and women to marry then that is fine. These civil marriages or unions are only for the purpose of state benefits and as such I have no problem with it. In this way it is therefore not a paradox. (OOC: not sure whether you are a christian or what denomination - though would assume that you are a fundamentalist of some description!! - why is it that you cling to a small part of the Old Testament which would seem to suggest that God disapproves of homosexuality, when the large parts of the Old Testament relating to Jewish laws etc. and women are in fact now ignored in the modern world - surely that means that the church can and does adapt to changing circumstances and so can do on this issue as well?)

Date14:43:56, May 26, 2005 CET
FromPartiya Nacionalnogo Progressa
ToDebating the Prison Labour Reform Act (Fourth Reading)
MessageI am sure, you didn't read "Archipelago Gulag" by Solzhenitsyn, you know nothing about it! Stop talk about it.

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