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Bill: SLSR Convention of 4078
Details
Submitted by[?]: Statesmen of Likatonia for Self Reliance
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 4078
Description[?]:
| In a small rented convention hall in St. Jackson, Norwalk, this initial SLSR convention took place. The platform presented here was sent to the House of Representatives. It has been approved by a majority of citizens present at the convention. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards daily working hours.
Old value:: The government obligates trade unions and employers to negotiate the daily number of working hours.
Current: The government has no policy concerning daily working hours.
Proposed: The government has no policy concerning daily working hours.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The use of animals in cosmetics research.
Old value:: Animals may not be used for testing cosmetics products.
Current: Animals may not be used for testing cosmetics products.
Proposed: The use of animals to test cosmetic products is unregulated.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on animal welfare in livestock farming.
Old value:: The government enforces high animal welfare standards.
Current: The government enforces high animal welfare standards.
Proposed: The government has no policy concerning animal welfare in livestock farming.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Eminent domain compensation (if eminent domain is legal).
Old value:: A neutral body appointed by the courts determines the compensation, either party may appeal.
Current: A neutral body appointed by the courts determines the compensation, either party may appeal.
Proposed: The victim of eminent domain sets compensation, government can appeal to the courts if they deem the cost too high.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Proposed: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Old value:: The government determines which missionaries are permitted to visit on a person by person basis.
Current: The government determines which missionaries are permitted to visit on a person by person basis.
Proposed: The government has no policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Government's position on paramilitaries.
Old value:: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Current: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Proposed: Paramilitaries are not officially acknowledged but are allowed to exist.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the treatment of prisoners of war.
Old value:: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Current: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Proposed: Prisoners of war are treated according to the national laws of the captor power.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change Food and beverage labeling regulations.
Old value:: Companies must clearly label food and beverage products, in a manner that can be easily understood.
Current: Companies must clearly label food and beverage products, in a manner that can be easily understood.
Proposed: There are no laws concerning food and beverage labeling.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Individuals are allowed to own firearms as long as they do not have a history of dangerous mental illness or a violent criminality.
Current: Adult individuals are allowed to own and purchase guns freely.
Proposed: Adult individuals are allowed to own and purchase guns freely.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:13:14, August 22, 2016 CET | From | Progressive Populist Party | To | Debating the SLSR Convention of 4078 |
| Message | Your disregard of animal welfare unsettles this party. |
| Date | 18:42:09, August 22, 2016 CET | From | Statesmen of Likatonia for Self Reliance | To | Debating the SLSR Convention of 4078 |
| Message | Federal Government regulation over the moral issue of animal welfare is government overreach. Private citizens can make this moral choice for themselves. Tax money spent on enforcing Animal Welfare standards should be returned to the taxpayers. We could also support leaving animal welfare issues to local governments. |
| Date | 02:58:28, August 23, 2016 CET | From | Progressive Populist Party | To | Debating the SLSR Convention of 4078 |
| Message | Local control could be a more acceptable compromise, but not with livestock. Animals meant to be eaten should be kept in highly regulated conditions, to ensure the health survival of those who eat mass-produced goods. |
| Date | 04:00:22, August 23, 2016 CET | From | Statesmen of Likatonia for Self Reliance | To | Debating the SLSR Convention of 4078 |
| Message | All regulation will do is increase the cost of food and cause taxpayers to spend money on regulation enforcement. If a food supplier produces harmful food, nobody will buy it. The free market is the best regulation for food. |
| Date | 04:18:01, August 23, 2016 CET | From | Progressive Populist Party | To | Debating the SLSR Convention of 4078 |
| Message | How will people know when a food supplier produces harmful food, unless they are required to make the conditions of their animals public knowledge? The largest food companies, without any legal consequences, could do away with safety procedures (for animals and consumers), and since they would be the main source of meat for the vast majority of people, consumers wouldn't have a choice. It is not a truly free market if it is entirely in the hands of a select few corporations. This kind of scenario would be almost as unfree, in fact, as if food production was totally nationalized. Either way, the interests of the common people are diluted through corporate / government bureaucracy. (OOC: I can't refer to real people or entities in character, as per the site's rules, but I must recommend Upton Sinclair's book "The Jungle". The last few chapters are infamously heavy-handed in promoting socialism, to the point that Sinclair himself later disowned them; but the majority of the story is a heavily researched and gruesomely detailed expose of the totalitarian conditions of industrial-era Chicago before the Progressive and New Deal movements and the ensuing government regulation. Again, barring the last few chapters, it is a must-read IMO.) |
| Date | 06:10:43, August 23, 2016 CET | From | Statesmen of Likatonia for Self Reliance | To | Debating the SLSR Convention of 4078 |
| Message | Food producers could put up an invisibility cloak and never allow anyone onto their property for all we care. When the food gets to market consumers get to choose the food they want to buy. If a company has a reputation for having a problem with their food, their business will suffer because people will not buy that food. Would you buy food from a store that had a reputation for having problems with the food? Of course you wouldn't. If they cause harm to a person then they may have civil or criminal liability. There are private consumer advocacy groups that rate food and in some cases do chemical analysis. No government involvement needed. Food production is not in the hands of a few corporations. Anyone can and should be allowed to produce their own food and sell food if they so choose, without government interference. More regulation only makes it harder for smaller producers to compete with large corporations. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 255 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 222 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 201 |
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