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Bill: Government provision of legal aid to the accused.
Details
Submitted by[?]: Fascist Rule Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2178
Description[?]:
| I purpose that legal representation is never paid for by the state, it is not the governments responsability to pay for the guilty to stay out of prison. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government provision of legal aid to the accused.
Old value:: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Current: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state.
Proposed: Legal representation is never paid for by the state.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:47:32, January 29, 2006 CET | From | Fascist Rule Party | To | Debating the Government provision of legal aid to the accused. |
| Message | Forgot to add propasals to last bills, so I will do it right this time |
| Date | 14:54:12, January 29, 2006 CET | From | Kanjoran Socialist Party | To | Debating the Government provision of legal aid to the accused. |
| Message | Ehh..I don't know about that one. You should be entitled to a fair trial and that is making it unfair for those who don't have a lawyer. |
| Date | 14:56:10, January 29, 2006 CET | From | Fascist Rule Party | To | Debating the Government provision of legal aid to the accused. |
| Message | Well they can have a lawyer - they just pay for him themselves |
| Date | 15:09:28, January 29, 2006 CET | From | Fascist Rule Party | To | Debating the Government provision of legal aid to the accused. |
| Message | Giving poor people a free lawyer and making rich people pay for a lawyer themselves isn't fair, so by making everyone pay for a lawyer no one has an unfair advantage in the courtroom thus making it a fair trial |
| Date | 18:55:26, January 29, 2006 CET | From | Kanjoran Socialist Party | To | Debating the Government provision of legal aid to the accused. |
| Message | Well using your logic, why don't we have everybodies lawyers paid for by that state? That way it would be fair and the rich couldn't buy any better lawyers than the poor because they would be state representatives. |
| Date | 22:04:37, January 29, 2006 CET | From | Rational Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Government provision of legal aid to the accused. |
| Message | Hmm, while I'm against government interference in general, I think this is important enough for the government to interfere. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 93 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 179 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 28 |
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