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Bill: Freedom of the Animals!
Details
Submitted by[?]: Devout Ecologists Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2180
Description[?]:
| The animals deserve to be free! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the keeping of endangered animals.
Old value:: Only zoos or zoological institutions are allowed to keep endangered animals; all other forms of keeping or trading in endangered animals are forbidden.
Current: Only zoos or zoological institutions are allowed to keep endangered animals; all other forms of keeping or trading in endangered animals are forbidden.
Proposed: Keeping endangered animals, or trading therein, is forbidden.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the keeping of exotic animals.
Old value:: Only zoos or zoological institutions are allowed to keep exotic animals.
Current: Everyone may keep exotic animals, but the trade in exotic animals is regulated by the government.
Proposed: Keeping exotic animals is forbidden.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:58:14, January 31, 2006 CET | From | Advanced Intellectual Party | To | Debating the Freedom of the Animals! |
| Message | What would happen to animals domesticated now? Would they be set free into the wild most likely to die by starvation as they would be unable to fend for themselves? Might they not also disrupt the delicate ecological balance of our country as hordes of non native animals are suddenly introduced? |
| Date | 08:32:48, February 01, 2006 CET | From | Devout Ecologists Party | To | Debating the Freedom of the Animals! |
| Message | AIP, you bring up a good point. I can not think of anything reasonable to say in my defence and have to agree. I will get rid of the first article then, to ban domesticated animals. The dog and cat are creatures that come only in domestication. |
| Date | 09:53:26, February 01, 2006 CET | From | Advanced Intellectual Party | To | Debating the Freedom of the Animals! |
| Message | Maybe the freedom of domesticated animals can still be achieved but through a gradual phasing out system. Where domesticated animals are not allowed to breed and licensed breeders are shut down. Then current domesticated species would procceed natrually and die. However I think that this could lead to a large black market animal trade in our country which in most cases in exotic and dometic animals is more harmfull to the animal than kind domestication or being looked after in a zoo. So i am wondering whether it is such a good idea. Also many of the only ways of making sure endangered and exotic species is to have them in captivity where they are protected, if we banned this they might completely die out and they would be lost forever. |
| Date | 11:24:10, February 01, 2006 CET | From | Devout Ecologists Party | To | Debating the Freedom of the Animals! |
| Message | I was thinking about a gradual phasing system aswell, and considering the species would not go extinct because they exist in other countries, I think it is a good option. I will make a special bill for that later. Our duty is to stop all black market trade and criminality. Besides, animals have a particular need, that should not be as easy to hide. And, just by keeping them in the zoo does not mean there will be no black trade. Now I would agree with you on the endangered species and the zoo, protecting them from dying out, but we have parks in our nation for that, and we do not need cramped up spaces for these animals. Cramped up spaces where tourists come to take an animal's picture every day. How would you feel? Better is a special allocated area where the animals can live in protection and life in it's natural enviroment. Exotic creatures are not on the verge of dying out, they should be able to live freely in their own living environment. |
| Date | 07:49:24, February 02, 2006 CET | From | Devout Ecologists Party | To | Debating the Freedom of the Animals! |
| Message | RWE, PNUM, LPP, 23CC. Why are you against this? Do you wish to condemn animals to a life of imprisonment? No freedom, only bars and tourists. |
| Date | 03:29:24, February 03, 2006 CET | From | Lutte Féministe de Libération | To | Debating the Freedom of the Animals! |
| Message | Of course. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 56 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 259 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 122 |
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