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Bill: Conscription proposal
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hobrazian Peoples Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2183
Description[?]:
| We need to protect our nation. Therefore we need a military capable of doing so. This calls for conscription so that we are ready for future conflicts. There should be set some time limits of military service, whaich shall depend on where and what military purpose or civilian national service one attend. Civilian national service should be between 1 and 2 years depending on where you work. Military service should be between 1 and 2 years depending on where you are stationed. Everyone will be a part of the national reserves for 5 years after ending their military service or civilian national service. For civilian national service personel no one shall be forced to participate in combat, but will be assigned to other military work during war. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:26:15, February 01, 2006 CET | From |  Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Conscription proposal |
| Message | If we could define the length of time they must serve...Say something like 2 years active duty followed by 5 years in the reserve. I will support.. |
| Date | 15:47:56, February 01, 2006 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Conscription proposal |
| Message | there is now debate on time lenghts to. |
| Date | 21:54:29, February 01, 2006 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Conscription proposal |
| Message | We see no need for this law. Our current policy has shown itself to be successful when called upon and we believe that Terra is actually entering a relatively peaceful phase. |
| Date | 22:28:17, February 01, 2006 CET | From | National Imperial Hobrazian Front | To | Debating the Conscription proposal |
| Message | Strongly oppose. Why all the sudden militarization? It's really not necessary. If we want an effective military, then we need to keep it professional. |
| Date | 23:31:19, February 01, 2006 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Conscription proposal |
| Message | Conscript armies have never shown themselves to be efficient or proficient at their duties compared to a smaller, well supported, professional force. We also question the requirement to train all our citizens in the intricacies of killing... |
| Date | 05:46:21, February 02, 2006 CET | From | Bolivarian Party | To | Debating the Conscription proposal |
| Message | We are against it, military service should only be mandatory during times of war |
| Date | 12:16:46, February 03, 2006 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Conscription proposal |
| Message | There are no such thing as a proffesional army in Hobrazia. Therefore there is need to establish protection. Furthermore if we only conscript during war there won't be time for training, and surely several hobrazians will die. |
| Date | 19:33:05, February 03, 2006 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Conscription proposal |
| Message | "There are no such thing as a proffesional army in Hobrazia." - Yes there is. Where did you think all the defense funding went? |
| Date | 19:37:30, February 05, 2006 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Conscription proposal |
| Message | give me a link to the passed proposal. |
| Date | 09:39:04, February 06, 2006 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Conscription proposal |
| Message | http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=44075 |
| Date | 12:46:27, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Conscription proposal |
| Message | THere are no such prooves that we have an proffesional army en Hobrazia. This is just the allocated funds for defence. |
| Date | 14:06:21, February 07, 2006 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Conscription proposal |
| Message | Try:- http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=25113 and http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=27244 which imply a non-conscript military |
| Date | 22:36:01, February 08, 2006 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Conscription proposal |
| Message | By this proposal and the others that have been over the years, this must be obsolute. |
| Date | 01:51:29, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Bolivarian Party | To | Debating the Conscription proposal |
| Message | We do need a professional army, however, not one of forced recruits. People should join they army because they wish to. In the event of a war and army personnel running low a draft would make sense, but not during peace time. |
| Date | 09:47:23, February 09, 2006 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Conscription proposal |
| Message | "By this proposal and the others that have been over the years, this must be obsolute." - ? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 87 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 197 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 116 |
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