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Bill: Prayer Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Partiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: October 2181

Description[?]:

No state involvement required. Schools should be free to choose teachers led prayers or not.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date16:19:24, February 03, 2006 CET
FromModern Intellectual Party
ToDebating the Prayer Act
MessageAre going back to some kind of non-secular, church driven insanity. By allowing some schools to allow prayer then the principles of education are abandoned. The idea of secular government is abandoned. The principles of reason and rationality are gone. In a place where people are taught facts teachers would also tell them that God created the universe, that the world was created in days, that gay people are wrong, that abortion is wrong. Obviously, some schools could have a very sensible prayer policy where these things would not be mentioned, but that would still be a non-secular education system, we think this is inherently wrong.

Also there is state involvement here; if it is banned or allowed the state has become involved because the schools are ran by the state.

I assume the BLP is suggesting this because of its strong beliefs on choice and not religion, as it has always seemed a secular party but we are strongly opposed to this.

Date11:26:48, February 04, 2006 CET
FromPartiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan
ToDebating the Prayer Act
MessageIndeed, the BLP favours seperation of state and religion. However, to the BLP freedom of religion also means freedom to choose a school where they practise prayers. This is not in contradiction with our liberal principles.

Date12:11:04, February 04, 2006 CET
FromBastiat Party
ToDebating the Prayer Act
MessageIf the schools are run by the state then this proposal violates seperation of church and state.

If state involvement then "Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden" promotes seperation of church and state.

If all schools are private then "Teacher-led prayers in schools" should be allowed.

Date17:10:50, February 04, 2006 CET
FromPartiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan
ToDebating the Prayer Act
MessageIf people are allowed to set up religious schools teacher-led prayers should be allowed.

This proposal is allowing the above mentioned situation.

Date17:42:32, February 04, 2006 CET
FromBastiat Party
ToDebating the Prayer Act
MessageThese religious schools are private, right? It would be absurd to have private religious schools that can't have teacher led prayers.

Date18:39:52, February 04, 2006 CET
FromPartiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan
ToDebating the Prayer Act
MessageWe agree with the BP. However, the current law permits religious school but forbids teacher-led prayers. Therefore we proposed this bill. May we expect your support ?

Date19:25:12, February 04, 2006 CET
FromBastiat Party
ToDebating the Prayer Act
MessageAgree

Date22:28:06, February 05, 2006 CET
FromModern Intellectual Party
ToDebating the Prayer Act
MessageIf this bill is passed it will be a sad day for this country, it will mean the end of impartial knowledge in schools, it will be influenced by religion and some of the, frankly, insane ideas that come with religion.

Date23:28:49, February 05, 2006 CET
FromPartiya Rizgarî ya Bamenistan
ToDebating the Prayer Act
MessageFear is a bad counsellor, MIP. In these modern times people are well aware of all dangers. They do not needless protection of an almighty state. We give people more freedom of choice. There will be more distinction between schools. This can only be done within the law. We get the impression you are bit oversensitive on matters concerning religion. Let people believe what they want as long as they stay within the law.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 188

no
  

Total Seats: 119

abstain
  

Total Seats: 94


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