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Bill: Refugees Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Uniunea Hosia Democrată

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 4111

Description[?]:

We are a fortunate country, blessed with peace and prosperity that many of our fellow human beings around Terra could only dream of. As a member of the civilised community of nations, one of our first duties is to provide sanctuary to those fleeing dire circumstances, such as war and political persecution.

Lucian Petrescu
Chairman of the Hosian Democratic Union

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date12:30:36, October 25, 2016 CET
FromPartidul Social Democrat
ToDebating the Refugees Act
MessageMr Speaker,

Whatever our individual/personal religious beliefs, I believe the UHD have presented here a proposal which represents the best of the Hosian spirit of caring and charity. I will be delighted when my party votes in favour of this proposal.

Nic Stefan
Președinte al Confederației
Kizenian Partidul Lucrătorilor

Date12:32:08, October 25, 2016 CET
FromDemokratikus Liberális Párt
ToDebating the Refugees Act
MessageMr Speaker,

It seems obvious that the United "Hosian" Democrats are hell-bent on making this country less Hosian, and give us even more problems with ethnic divisions.

The Freedom Front will always be here to ensure that the rights of the tax-paying free citizen of the Confederacy comes first.

Regina Tóth
Vice Coordinator & Parliamentary group leader
Freedom Front

Date12:35:08, October 25, 2016 CET
FromUniunea Hosia Democrată
ToDebating the Refugees Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

Granting sanctuary to those in need makes us more Hosian, not less. The religious beliefs (or lack of religious beliefs) of the refugees does not matter. They are our fellow human beings, and we owe a duty of charity to them.

Lucian Petrescu
Chairman of the Hosian Democratic Union

Date12:36:33, October 25, 2016 CET
FromDemokratikus Liberális Párt
ToDebating the Refugees Act
MessageMr Speaker,

And to give us more Kalopian Horses inside our borders I would like to add. We already have the Kuzaki having their own state inside our borders despite not even being an indigenous community - and a fair risk that they'll turn to alien tyrannies such as Fascist Mikuni-Hulstria to advance their own agenda. Now they want us to import savages so that the attention of barbaric fascist states such as Jelbania can be drawn to us.

The U"H"D hates our own people.

Izabella Nemes
Animals, Nature and other Cute Stuff Spokesperson
Freedom Front

Date12:40:16, October 25, 2016 CET
FromDemokratikus Liberális Párt
ToDebating the Refugees Act
MessageMr Speaker,

Charity must always be voluntary and can thus never come from the state. If people want to donate stuff to foreigners in dire situations, they are free to do so.

As the Annunciation says: man does not live by bread alone. Removing people from the roots is a very dangerous thing to do. The nations are a natural extension of the family unit, something I would think a self-proclaimed Hosian party would want to protect. Not to mention the Yeudi-Hosian foundations of our democracy that definitely not all people of the world share - especially not the kind of people my esteemed colleague mentioned.

Regina Tóth
Vice Coordinator & Parliamentary group leader
Freedom Front

Date12:40:39, October 25, 2016 CET
FromPartidul Social Democrat
ToDebating the Refugees Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

I have heard the Freedom Front repeatedly refer to 'big momma' or 'nanny' state. Clearly, what they mean is a government which unnecessarily interferes in the lives of its citizens. I ask them, how do they reconcile this belief with the suggestion that the government should be in the business of regulating who enters the nation, what their religion is, where they came from and so on. Are they not, as neo-liberals, talking through one side of their mouth on economics and through another on social and moral matters?

Nic Stefan
Președinte al Confederației
Kizenian Partidul Lucrătorilor


Date16:16:10, October 25, 2016 CET
FromDemokratikus Liberális Párt
ToDebating the Refugees Act
MessageMr Speaker,

That is quite easy to explain actually: for the same reason as we support environmental regulations. This is a matter that concerns every New Endralonian taxpayer, as we all collectively own the nation and the state.

I can't say I'm surprised to see the Labour Party betray the working class by letting in foreigners to leech on their security and basic needs and threatening them with their barbaric customs. Having a welfare state and immigration at the same time is an especially dangerous combination. It seems like both of the socialist parties here - for I honestly cannot view the "Hosian" Democrats as remotely that, are hell-bent on a new civil war.

Regina Tóth
Vice Coordinator & Parliamentary group leader
Freedom Front

Date16:25:24, October 25, 2016 CET
FromPartidul Social Democrat
ToDebating the Refugees Act
MessageMr Speaker,

I genuinely could not care less the religion of my next door neighbour, nor the colour of his skin, nor his country of birth. So long as he stays our of my way, he is of no consequence to my existence. The most dangerous individuals are already in the Confederation, they are the monetarist New Endralonians who put their own profit motive above the collective need of the workers.


Nic Stefan
Președinte al Confederației
Kizenian Partidul Lucrătorilor

Date18:05:20, October 25, 2016 CET
FromPartidul Poporului Noului Endralon
ToDebating the Refugees Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

Letting all "refugees" enter would indeed lead to a big inport of people which we cannot house nor feed. We arent a super wealthy nation. Our land is a medium developed economy according to the World Congress statistics.

Secondly we agree to help refugees but not forever and not as luxurous as this. We vote against this bill.

H. Hunyad
Leader of the NEPP

Date18:26:44, October 25, 2016 CET
FromDemokratikus Liberális Párt
ToDebating the Refugees Act
MessageMr Speaker,

It is horrible to hear our president equating civilized people with democratic values with savages who stone gays, rape women of other religions or sell them as slaves, force their own women to walk around like ghosts, views their own superiority over others as "sacred" etc.

It's even worse hearing him espousing anti-Zyldav sentiments. Strengthens my feeling of him looking for a new civil war.

Importing unemployment and leeching off welfare as well as barbarism, rape and criminality into impoverished areas is a direct attack on the Kizenian working class. And an assault on God's work, on top of that. Horrific to see two parties pursing policies who are the exact opposite of what their voters thought they were all about.

Regina Tóth
Vice Coordinator & Parliamentary group leader
Freedom Front

Date18:57:53, October 25, 2016 CET
FromPartidul Social Democrat
ToDebating the Refugees Act
MessageMr Speakers,

Why is the Vice Coordinator obsessed with raping women? Nobody else has even so much as mentioned anything of the sort. The kind of deluded, bigoted rhetoric that the Freedom Front spouts is what really has no place in Kizenia. No wonder her party was so clearly rejected by the voters. Also note that I said 'monetarist New Endralonians'- totally different from Zyldav.

Nic Stefan
Președinte al Confederației
Kizenian Partidul Lucrătorilor

Date04:20:09, October 26, 2016 CET
FromUniunea Hosia Democrată
ToDebating the Refugees Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

In response to feedback from the other parties, particularly from our coalition partners the NEPP, we have moderated the proposal, so that not all refugees are allowed in, but those who are allowed in are given the support they need.

Lucian Petrescu
Chairman of the Hosian Democratic Union
Minister of Justice

Date09:32:04, October 26, 2016 CET
FromPartidul Poporului Noului Endralon
ToDebating the Refugees Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

The plans of the Minister of Justice is acceptable. We agree that people should integrate and absorb our fine cultures and gain a good safe haven.

With this proposal we can live and thus support it.

Henrik Hunyad
Leader of the NEPP


Date13:35:00, October 26, 2016 CET
FromDemokratikus Liberális Párt
ToDebating the Refugees Act
MessageMr Speaker,

"Extreme circumstances" exists in all corners of the world were undemocratic ideologies such as Communism or Ahmadism prevail. Depending on who interpret this, it could be a carte blanche to mass-import the enemies of freedom to our country.

We will do everything in our power to revise this.

Regina Tóth
Vice Coordinator & Parliamentary group leader
Freedom Front

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 316

no
   

Total Seats: 86

abstain
 

Total Seats: 49


Random fact: Cultural Protocol bills must provide a real-life equivalent or short description for the ethnic groups, languages and religions contained in them, such that it would be easy for an unfamiliar player to understand (e.g. "Dundorfian = German"). Where appropriate, they should also provide guidance to players on where to find help with translations and character names. This might include, for example, links to Google Translate, Behind the Name's Random Name Generator and Fantasy Name Generators.

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