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Bill: Administration Bill 4112
Details
Submitted by[?]: Nationale Partei des Volkes
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 4113
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards civilians who conscientiously object to being required to perform military service (if applicable).
Old value:: Conscientious objectors are exempted.
Current: Conscientious objectors can be exempted from combatant roles, but not from non-combatant roles.
Proposed: Conscientious objectors can be exempted from combatant roles, but not from non-combatant roles.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:52:04, October 29, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Administration Bill 4112 |
| Message | Herr Speaker, We worry about this dangerous proposal. Patriotism to our nation is one thing, but there are many people who oppose military intervention and wars, even in non-combatant roles, they are still supporting a cause that they might morally object to, either through religion, ideology or just their morals in general. We urge the DSU especially to reconsider their support for this reform. Ken Knochen, Parliamentary Leader of the Opposition |
| Date | 15:40:42, October 29, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Administration Bill 4112 |
| Message | Herr Speaker, We applaud the members of the DSU for taking our position into account and changing their minds by opposing this unfair bill. Ken Knochen, Parliamentary Leader of the Opposition |
| Date | 15:45:49, October 29, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Administration Bill 4112 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, after further analysis and disscusion in the party we have deicded to reject our support for this bill. Angela Schultz, DSU leader. |
| Date | 16:23:03, October 29, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Administration Bill 4112 |
| Message | Mr. Knochen, main reason we've decided to withdraw support is lack of justification from the NPdV, we thinkg this solution has its pros and cons and they must be thoroughly discussed and debated. But at this point there is no point in discussion when the major party is silent during bill presentation. Angela Schultz, DSU Leader |
| Date | 17:07:11, October 29, 2016 CET | From | Nationale Partei des Volkes | To | Debating the Administration Bill 4112 |
| Message | Herr Knochen, I'm not sitting here 24/7 and I also have 7 bills and that means 7 objections to answer. My party thinks that a person should always support his country, even if it means working in a factory (that's also a non-combatant role). Ferdinand von Braun (NPdV) - State Chancellor of the Dorvish Republic |
| Date | 17:12:33, October 29, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Administration Bill 4112 |
| Message | State Chancellor, We strongly disagree. A person should be free to not support their country, part of what makes a nation great is to allow for people to disagree on matters. It is counter constructive to force people into supporting a cause they may disagree with, it will make discontent and rebellion rise. Paula Fürst, Parliamentary Leader of the Opposition |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 169 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 331 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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