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Bill: Health Reform 4112
Details
Submitted by[?]: Nationale Partei des Volkes
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 4113
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Sale of tobacco products.
Old value:: Only adults may purchase tobacco.
Current: There are certain restrictions on the sale of tobacco and only adults may purchase tobacco.
Proposed: There are certain restrictions on the sale of tobacco and only adults may purchase tobacco.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 15:51:05, October 29, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Health Reform 4112 |
Message | Herr Speaker, We would like to hear what these restrictions include. Ken Knochen, Parliamentary Leader of the Opposition |
Date | 17:18:07, October 29, 2016 CET | From | Nationale Partei des Volkes | To | Debating the Health Reform 4112 |
Message | Herr Knochen, The restrictions will include: - big and clear warnings about illnesses that smoking causes - if the cashier is not sure whether the person is adult or not, he can always ask for ID (that's also why carrying ID is important) - the imported tobacco would be checked, if it's from unknown plantations - small additional tax - (optional) tobacco will be sold to adults above 21 y.o. Ferdinand von Braun (NPdV) - State Chancellor of the Dorvish Republic |
Date | 17:22:45, October 29, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Health Reform 4112 |
Message | State Chancellor, Generally these sound like reasonable regulations. However we don't see the relevance of whether tobacco is from unknown plantations, and we would rather see medium sized warnings about illnesses caused by smoking so it does not ruin the packaging design too much. Additionally, we would rather lower the age of purchase to 18, as that is the age of adulthood in our nation. Paula Fürst, Parliamentary Leader of the Opposition |
Date | 17:49:18, October 29, 2016 CET | From | Nationale Partei des Volkes | To | Debating the Health Reform 4112 |
Message | Frau Fürst, Unknown plantations are those that are not registered / probably illegal. The age of purchase was optional, but if you want to leave it, I'll leave it. Ferdinand von Braun (NPdV) - State Chancellor of the Dorvish Republic |
Date | 17:54:35, October 29, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Health Reform 4112 |
Message | State Chancellor, In that case, we see no reason to object to this bill unless given cause to by another party. Paula Fürst, Parliamentary Leader of the Oppostion |
Date | 19:04:33, October 29, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Health Reform 4112 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, this would mean double regulations, we already have laws which force the producers to put infos about the harmful effects of the tobbaco products. If only adults may buy tobbaco products then the cashier is allowed to check the ID to ensure the person is above 18. and there is no further regulations needed. Angela Schults, DSU leader. |
Date | 19:17:50, October 29, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Health Reform 4112 |
Message | Frau Schults, Again, we can see your point of view, as stated we have no strong views on this proposal. We can also see how these double regulations are unnecessary, following the next election when bills are put back to debate, we shall reconsider our stance. Paula Fürst, Parliamentary Leader of the Oppostion |
Date | 19:43:58, October 29, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Health Reform 4112 |
Message | correction: Angela Schultz |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes | Total Seats: 169 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 331 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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