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Bill: Justice Reform I b 4112

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Submitted by^[?]: Nationale Partei des Volkes

Status^[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: August 4113

Description^[?]:

Proposal^[?] to change Tort reform on non-civil lawsuits.

Old value:: There is no cap on monetary damages awarded to patients in lawsuits.

Current: There is no cap on monetary damages awarded to patients in lawsuits.

Proposed: There is a cap on monetary damages awarded to patients in lawsuits.

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	15:49:04, October 29, 2016 CET
From	Fortschrittsvereinigung
To	Debating the Justice Reform I b 4112
Message	Herr Speaker, We don't believe there should be a cap on monetary damages awarded to patients in lawsuits, we firmly believe that every lawsuit should be treated on a case by case basis, not a blanket cap. It could possibly hinder justice. Ken Knochen, Parliamentary Leader of the Opposition

Date	16:55:30, October 29, 2016 CET
From	Nationale Partei des Volkes
To	Debating the Justice Reform I b 4112
Message	Herr Knochen, This bill will prevent taking all the wealth that the accused has accumulated. Sometimes the victim will hurt himself just to get the money. Maintaining a cap would actually uphold the justice. We propose a symbolic cap of 2,500,000 DDO. Ferdinand von Braun (NPdV) - State Chancellor of the Dorvish Republic

Date	17:15:49, October 29, 2016 CET
From	Fortschrittsvereinigung
To	Debating the Justice Reform I b 4112
Message	State Chancellor, What if however someone has done such a heinous act to the accuser, something which they feel 2,500,000 DDO will not cover? What if the accused has made damages which only 3,000,000 DDO will fix? As stated, we believe things should be taken on a case by case basis, in extraordinary cases, we don't believe there should be a cap on justice. Paula Fürst, Parliamentary Leader of the Oppostion

Date	17:32:03, October 29, 2016 CET
From	Nationale Partei des Volkes
To	Debating the Justice Reform I b 4112
Message	Herr Knochen, Did you saw that I said "propose" ? Also, how money would fix for ex. brain damage ? Money is not a repair tool. A person with brain damage should want money only for recovery (and medical expenses), not for a new house. I guess you wouldn't want losing all your money, just because somebody wanted to have it. Our new proposal for monetary cap: 5,000,000 DDO. Ferdinand von Braun (NPdV) - State Chancellor of the Dorvish Republic

Date	17:35:26, October 29, 2016 CET
From	Fortschrittsvereinigung
To	Debating the Justice Reform I b 4112
Message	State Chancellor, Money could help pay for equipment and tools needed to help the proposed person with brain damage. Also, fining the accused for money will serve as a punishment, not just for the accuser's benefit. Paula Fürst, Parliamentary Leader of the Oppostion

Date	17:59:36, October 29, 2016 CET
From	Nationale Partei des Volkes
To	Debating the Justice Reform I b 4112
Message	Frau Fürst, The equipment and tools are considered as medical expenses too. Also, did you thought about cooruption in our country ? What if a judge will sentence you to pay for ex. 30,000,000 DDO and will take a part from it ? Ferdinand von Braun (NPdV) - State Chancellor of the Dorvish Republic

Date	18:28:59, October 29, 2016 CET
From	Fortschrittsvereinigung
To	Debating the Justice Reform I b 4112
Message	State Chancellor, There is no possible way a judge can take fee's from someone else's case. That's not how law-making works here. There's corruption then there's sheer fantasy! Paula Fürst, Parliamentary Leader of the Opposition

Date	18:32:08, October 29, 2016 CET
From	Nationale Partei des Volkes
To	Debating the Justice Reform I b 4112
Message	Frau Fürst, By taking the part of it, I meant cooperating with the victim and then getting the money. I know that judge wouldn't just take it. Ferdinand von Braun (NPdV) - State Chancellor of the Dorvish Republic

Date	18:45:09, October 29, 2016 CET
From	Fortschrittsvereinigung
To	Debating the Justice Reform I b 4112
Message	State Chancellor, That's what I meant...and if that could happen in this scenario, it could still happen under your cap. Paula Fürst, Parliamentary Leader of the Opposition

Date	18:52:11, October 29, 2016 CET
From	Nationale Partei des Volkes
To	Debating the Justice Reform I b 4112
Message	Frau Fürst, At least there will be a small plus: the accused won't be left on the street without a cent to live. A cap will prevent from taking all the funds from someone. My party wants to establish a monetary cap and a percent cap (probably around 85-90%). Ferdinand von Braun (NPdV) - State Chancellor of the Dorvish Republic

Date	19:01:34, October 29, 2016 CET
From	Konservative Union
To	Debating the Justice Reform I b 4112
Message	Mr. Speaker, My party was once accused of claiming false accusations of corruption in our country, NPdV should present some evidence for the alleged corruption. And presuming irrational scenarios is not a very wise ways to do politics. Angela Schultz, DSU leader.

Date	19:01:52, October 29, 2016 CET
From	Fortschrittsvereinigung
To	Debating the Justice Reform I b 4112
Message	State Chancellor, A reasonable judge wouldn't allow that to happen regardless of a cap, unless they felt it a worthy punishment. Something else to take into account, what if the accused is fabulously wealthy? 5,000,000 DDO may not make much of a difference to them, another reason a "one size fits all" regulation will not work! Paula Fürst, Parliamentary Leader of the Opposition

Vote

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yes

Total Seats: 169

Total Seats: 331

abstain

Total Seats: 0

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