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Bill: Ratification of the Allied Nations

Details

Submitted by[?]: Luthori Green Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: March 2180

Description[?]:

This bill asks for the ratification of the Allied Nations. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date09:07:10, February 02, 2006 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageNo way! This is an anti-Deltarian, anti-imperial, anti-monarchy, anti-Christian pact that we will have no part in.

Date11:51:31, February 02, 2006 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageOk, listen. The AN is not anti-Deltarian, as the party who created the treaty and organisation is Deltarian. It is not anti-Imperial, anti-monarchy, or anti-Christian, it is meant to halt the aggression of certain parties which bring a bad name to monarchies and Christians.

Date12:07:51, February 02, 2006 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageNever. This will attempt to stunt the growth of our glorious nation! Once we have built up our nation and economy (and if Wouter ever implements warfare...), we must begin a Blitzkrieg across our neighbors, uniting all of Artania under our glorious banner.

Date13:04:36, February 02, 2006 CET
FromPrimary Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageHello i speak on behalf of the Treaty.

1) This treaty is not anti deltarian, i am Deltarian
2) This treaty is not anti-imperial as any nation has the right to decide it's government
3) This treaty is not anti-monarchy as again any nation is welcome, even if they have a monarchy, emperor etc.
4) This treaty is not anti-christian as we don't care what religion people are, many parties are members of the allied nations organisation, mixtures of backgrounds and religions. I state all parties are welcome and all people are to. We do not disgriminate against anyone.


Date13:31:39, February 02, 2006 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
Message1) You're not Deltarian: you're an immigrant there who has no part in Deltarian culture.
2) Imperialism is about expansionism: that's "aggression" in your language.
3) "...*even* if they have a monarchy, emperor etc" That makes us feel really welcome!
4) Your purpose is to remove the Papacy from power and turn Deltaria into some kind of filthy secular republic. That is anti-monarchy and anti-Christian.

Date13:48:12, February 02, 2006 CET
FromPrimary Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
Message1) I am no immigrant, the only nation i have evr been in is Deltaria
2) Imperialism is not expansion, many nations have empires that just stay the same size
3) Stop being padantic, you get my drift
4) Oh i now see your a Deltarian "patriot". The papcy of Deltaria has ordered many attrocities within our nation and is unaccepting of people who don't want to believe in god.

Secular is the seperation of religion and state. This does not mean i am against religion.

Date13:50:27, February 02, 2006 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageWell, there are numerous Papacies in Terra, and if you really want, you could set up a Luthori Papacy, we do have a Luthori Catholic Church.

Date13:50:51, February 02, 2006 CET
FromBátory Dynastia
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageThe First Party is very much anti-Deltarian, more so than any other party in Terra. They have repeatedly insulted and attempted to destroy the culture of Deltaria.

They drafted the Allied Nations treaty in an attempt to hurt Deltaria
They've attempted numerous times to remove the institution of the Absolver.
They've attempted numerous times to remove the Catholic faith from Deltaria
They've attempted numerous times to destroy the Dynasticka Rada
They turned our national flag into an international laughing stock
They forced an English-language motto onto us, over a Deltarian-language motto
They've twice forced us to withdraw from our allies in the Axis
They've twice forced us to revoke the Deltarian Bill of Rights
They've unseated the Pope on one occassion, and are attempting to do so again.
They've repeatedly tried to name the Pope as Deltaria's national animal, a grave insult to our culture
They spearheaded the campaign to rename all Deltarian cities and deny Deltarian culture
They refuse to learn the Deltarian language, and instead constantly converse in English.
They consistantly try to remove ALL forms of law and order from Deltaria in a shameful attempt to collapse our society

They are singlemindedly anti-Deltarian, and should be denounced accordingly.

Date13:54:57, February 02, 2006 CET
FromPrimary Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageMost of this happened yes.

None however has hurt the people. They voted for us knowing what we stand for.

The cities were boring named Settlement 1, 2 etc...

With the language, i only speak English, some French and German.

Date14:08:00, February 02, 2006 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageFor a party that calls itself the Liberal Socialist Party, you have a conflicting ideology that betrays you.

Date14:11:16, February 02, 2006 CET
FromPrimary Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageWell most people know the truth.

Date17:31:52, February 02, 2006 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageYes, and they have spoken with their votes.

Date17:42:13, February 02, 2006 CET
FromPrimary Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageThat is fair enough. Can i ask would you back the axis league instead then if you see us as against Deltaria, monarchy, imperialism and religion?

Date17:42:37, February 02, 2006 CET
FromPrimary Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageThat question is aimed at the Progressive unionist party.

Date20:40:28, February 02, 2006 CET
FromShuggoth Progressive Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageThe issues surrounding the ratification of this Treaty seem to be more complex than our Foreign Minister led us to believe. The SPP will abstain.

Date09:25:40, February 03, 2006 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
MessageWhen my predecessor, The Reverend Ian Paisley, was Foreign Secretary he tried to enter Luthori into the Axis, but didn't get the two-thirds majority required to ratify the treaty. Does that answer the "First" Party's question?

Date10:49:23, February 03, 2006 CET
FromPrimary Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Allied Nations
Messageyes

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 163

no
    

Total Seats: 354

abstain
  

Total Seats: 233


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