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Bill: Limited Government Act of 4116
Details
Submitted by[?]: Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 4119
Description[?]:
| Will further limit government powers |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning gated communities.
Old value:: No gated communities are allowed.
Current: No gated communities are allowed.
Proposed: Both the government and the private sector can set up gated communities.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Eminent domain compensation (if eminent domain is legal).
Old value:: A neutral body appointed by the courts determines the compensation, either party may appeal.
Current: The victim of eminent domain sets compensation, government can appeal to the courts if they deem the cost too high.
Proposed: The victim of eminent domain determines just compensation.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.
Current: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.
Proposed: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Weapons allowed to private citizens.
Old value:: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Current: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, but these may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Proposed: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, but these may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Weapon concealment.
Old value:: People must first obtain a permit in order to carry concealed weapons.
Current: People must first obtain a permit in order to carry concealed weapons.
Proposed: Local governments may set and enforce concealed carry laws.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are not permitted to promote themselves or advertise in any manner whatsoever.
Current: Religions are not permitted to promote themselves or advertise in any manner whatsoever.
Proposed: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Current: Religious schools are not allowed.
Proposed: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on population control.
Old value:: Population control is left to local governments.
Current: The government does not engage in population control.
Proposed: The government does not engage in population control.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:30:33, November 06, 2016 CET | From | Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党) | To | Debating the Limited Government Act of 4116 |
| Message | By allowing more individuals to own weapons and to carry them we will greatly reduce crime and save many lives every year. Eminent Domain is pure evil as it doesn't show any respect and doesn't value each individuals right to private property. Religious people have the right to practice and live how they want just as much as secularist and atheist have a right to not practice faith and live to live how they want to. Population control is a immoral practice and infringes on every individuals right to life. Vaccination can be encouraged but shouldn't be forced. Why aren't gated communities allowed? Yet all of your parties corporate and union donors and politicians live in heavily protected homes and communities with armed security and gates yet private citizens can't live in gated communities or own weapons such as firearms to defend themselves. |
| Date | 06:51:25, November 07, 2016 CET | From | 立憲維新党 (Rikken Ishin-tō) | To | Debating the Limited Government Act of 4116 |
| Message | We disagree. Since the regulations of weapons, crime has decreased significantly. Unless there is a professional need for weaponization, citizens do not need to have any armed weaponry. We therefore disagree with Articles 4, 5, and 6. The stance on gated communities is a relic of Sekowo's communist era. We are open to this change. We would also like to request that both private communities and the government may create gated communities, instead of just private communities. We also believe religion must regulated to a point. Religion is a dangerous influence to humankind and it is the government's duty to ensure uneducated portions of the citizenry are not scammed by their influence. We share a similar stance with anti-vaxxers, who post a massive threat to the population. Vaccines must be enforced. We are, however, open to deregulating religion to an extent. Regarding eminent domain, we agree with your stance that it is immoral. We would like to regulate the government's use of eminent domain as well. May we suggest the following? The government may seize private property for vital government works. This will only include hospitals, schools, and the like. FInally, we agree with the views on population control. The government should take no part in it. |
| Date | 17:39:35, November 07, 2016 CET | From | Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党) | To | Debating the Limited Government Act of 4116 |
| Message | That data is false increased legal weapon ownership has lead to greatly reduced crime in the countries in which it is supported. The crime rates in Sekowo have increased with increased gun control by the government and by not letting more Sekowo citizens own weapons that opens up to the possibility of tyranny. We will agree on gated communities with you. We will also for now support your take on eminent domain. |
| Date | 17:46:24, November 07, 2016 CET | From | Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党) | To | Debating the Limited Government Act of 4116 |
| Message | Also your parties stance on religion is quite like those of theocratic states that oppose all other forms of faith or no faith. Our party is neither religious nor atheistic, we simply stand for freedom for all citizens. Our party is very diverse with people all backgrounds, religions, and beliefs and we have all came to an consensus even our most secular and atheistic members that regulating religion and non-religious things is bad for everyone and a threat to our freedom. Also your party takes a very closed minded approach to religion and those that follow it. Also when has forcing anything onto anyone ever been a good thing. Forcing people to get vaccinations is quite anti-freedom as most people do agree that getting vaccinated is good we shouldn't force it onto anyone. If it has to be forced it probably isn't that good. |
| Date | 17:54:54, November 07, 2016 CET | From | Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党) | To | Debating the Limited Government Act of 4116 |
| Message | Why does your party think it is okay to take away a citizens right to defend themselves, their families, their property, etc? Yet your party and many of its officials lived in heavily protected homes by armed security. If you think ordinary citizens don't need guns why do your high ranking party members allowed to and their families. Is it because your more important your lives are more valuable we think this is a disgrace to our people and our country. We ask that all of your politicians disarm if you think it's okay to keep our people from having weapons. |
| Date | 18:00:36, November 07, 2016 CET | From | Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党) | To | Debating the Limited Government Act of 4116 |
| Message | Why does your party think it is okay to take away a citizens right to defend themselves, their families, their property, etc? Yet your party and many of its officials lived in heavily protected homes by armed security. If you think ordinary citizens don't need guns why do your high ranking party members allowed to and their families. Is it because your more important your lives are more valuable we think this is a disgrace to our people and our country. We ask that all of your politicians disarm if you think it's okay to keep our people from having weapons. |
| Date | 18:01:00, November 07, 2016 CET | From | Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党) | To | Debating the Limited Government Act of 4116 |
| Message | (Sorry it repeated by accident) |
| Date | 00:55:42, November 08, 2016 CET | From | 天下党 (Party Under Heaven) | To | Debating the Limited Government Act of 4116 |
| Message | We are in favor of Article 10, The compromise on eminent domain for Article 2. We think that Articles 6 and 7 are too extreme, though we like the direction. And We oppose all other articles. Regarding Vaccinations, We are open to a compromise that involves an opt-out option for several reasons. |
| Date | 08:49:08, November 08, 2016 CET | From | 立憲維新党 (Rikken Ishin-tō) | To | Debating the Limited Government Act of 4116 |
| Message | Mandatory vaccinations is not a debate on freedom, it is about the safety and welfare of all. Our citizens have access to a cure. Those who are opposed to vaccination endanger the entire community with their foolish ignorance. |
| Date | 22:09:48, November 09, 2016 CET | From | Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党) | To | Debating the Limited Government Act of 4116 |
| Message | If we remove the vaccinations proposal would you agree to this bill |
| Date | 22:13:38, November 09, 2016 CET | From | Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党) | To | Debating the Limited Government Act of 4116 |
| Message | When you surrender your freedom you will lose safety and welfare along with it maybe not right away but it will happen. Those that sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither and will have neither. |
| Date | 09:20:35, November 10, 2016 CET | From | 立憲維新党 (Rikken Ishin-tō) | To | Debating the Limited Government Act of 4116 |
| Message | Your proposed freedom to choose vaccinations will allow the ignorant of the population to spread preventable diseases. We also are firmly against laxed gun control. We will therefore not support this bill. |
| Date | 02:04:50, November 11, 2016 CET | From | Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党) | To | Debating the Limited Government Act of 4116 |
| Message | Your party it seems is more concerned on being controlling and we find it funny how your party acts like its all knowing and smarter and more deserving of everything than ordinary citizens. Your party seems to be more concerned about themselves then ordinary citizens and are not taking their concerns in mind. Now we removed the vaccinations proposal for now and we have changed some proposals that may be more to your parties willingness to support this bill. We think that bringing more freedom at a slow rate seems to be the only way to get things done currently but we will continue to push for freedom for our people. |
| Date | 02:25:50, November 11, 2016 CET | From | 立憲維新党 (Rikken Ishin-tō) | To | Debating the Limited Government Act of 4116 |
| Message | We would also like to propose a compromise to your stance on gun control. In the case of ownership of guns by individuals, we are willing to accept the following: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions. We will consider the other weapon-related proposals in a later time. |
| Date | 21:19:42, November 11, 2016 CET | From | Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党) | To | Debating the Limited Government Act of 4116 |
| Message | We changed and yes we will discuss the other proposals at a later time |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 440 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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