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Bill: Dorvik Armed Strength Bill of October 4120
Details
Submitted by[?]: Dorvisch Nationaldemokratische Partei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 4121
Description[?]:
| It has come to the attention of the NDP that our military and intelligence forces currently suffer under unnecessary and therefore unethical regulations. For example, we have willingly gimped our military forces by refusing them the option of research and storage of biological weaponry, restricting the usage of landmine technology. We have essentially nullified our nuclear prowess by refusing to use it except in retaliation as an open stance - if they are to be useful, we must make it known we are theoretically willing to punch first. To pull punches in warfare costs lives, good lives of good men and women of Dorvik. We, the NDP have many issues with our military's social policy in particular, but this overregulation of our own warfare capacity based on no cause but theoretical ethics - the ethics of allowing our soldiers to die so that we might give the enemy a 'better' death - is horrendous. Were we to get in a war today, thousands, tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths of Dorvishmen would be caused by our restrictions. This is entirely unacceptable, and must be repealed at once. Maximilian Wolff, NDP Chair |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning biological and chemical weaponry.
Old value:: The nation shall never purchase, produce, or store biological or chemical weaponry, for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Current: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards civilians who conscientiously object to being required to perform military service (if applicable).
Old value:: Conscientious objectors are exempted.
Current: Conscientious objectors can be exempted, but only on religious grounds.
Proposed: Conscientious objectors can be exempted from combatant roles, but not from non-combatant roles.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Proposed: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the use of land mines by the army.
Old value:: The use of land mines is allowed but restricted.
Current: The use of land mines is allowed but restricted.
Proposed: The use of land mines is allowed.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in retaliation to any attack.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the treatment of prisoners of war.
Old value:: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Current: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Proposed: Prisoners of war are treated according to the national laws of the captor power.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:39:52, November 15, 2016 CET | From |  Konservative Union | To | Debating the Dorvik Armed Strength Bill of October 4120 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We cannot disagree more with the author of this outrageous bill and therefore will vote against it and we exhort other members of the Staatsrat to to the same. It seems as the NDP really wants to bring back the Volksrepublik... Aaron Posse, Leader of Dorvisch Soziale Union. |
| Date | 20:49:38, November 15, 2016 CET | From | Dorvisch Nationaldemokratische Partei | To | Debating the Dorvik Armed Strength Bill of October 4120 |
| Message | Herr Speaker, Please clarify why you support allowing the soldiers of Dorvik to die unnecessarily in wars for the sake of making any and all national enemies more comfortable. Should my proposals spare the life of even one Dorvisch soldier, everyone in the Staatsrat should be proud to support it, or resign their posts immediately - the cost to our enemies is less than insignificant. Maximilian Wolff, NDP Chair |
| Date | 10:37:43, November 16, 2016 CET | From | Dorvische Sozial Nationale Volkspartei | To | Debating the Dorvik Armed Strength Bill of October 4120 |
| Message | Herr Speaker, We agree with this legislation and will vote in favor. President Heindrig Aswalt, DKF |
| Date | 12:59:31, November 16, 2016 CET | From | Dorvisch Nationaldemokratische Partei | To | Debating the Dorvik Armed Strength Bill of October 4120 |
| Message | ((God damn it didn't add these to my voting record because they weren't moved into voting before the elections, so I still have no seats. Wow. That's bullshit.)) |
| Date | 13:49:30, November 16, 2016 CET | From | Dorvische Sozial Nationale Volkspartei | To | Debating the Dorvik Armed Strength Bill of October 4120 |
| Message | OOC:, dont have such an attitude this is a game sometimes you win sometimes you lose deal with it |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 169 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 309 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 22 |
| Random fact: "OOC", "IC" and "IG" are commonly-used acronyms in Particracy. "OOC" refers to comments, discussions and actions which are out-of-character, meaning they are done player-to-player rather than party-to-party. "IC" refers to in-character interactions (ie. party-to-party). Similarly, "IG" means in-game, although this term may also simply refer to what happens in the actual game interface, as opposed to on the forum or elsewhere. "RP" just means "role-play". |
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