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Bill: Government conservative bill 4124
Details
Submitted by[?]: Dorvische Sozial Nationale Volkspartei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 4125
Description[?]:
A conservative bill introduced by the government to combat the growing liberal left leaning policy's |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Licensing of food sales.
Old value:: Food may be sold by licensed vendors only, and shelf lives of foods are enforced.
Current: Food may be sold by licensed vendors only.
Proposed: The licensing of food sale is left for local governments to decide.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Current: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Proposed: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Women in the military.
Old value:: Women serve alongside men.
Current: Women serve alongside men.
Proposed: Women serve in segregated units.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on Democratic Workers' Councils.
Old value:: Democratic Workers' Councils are not permitted to run a business.
Current: The government encourages the formation of Democratic Workers' Councils through subsidies and tax exemptions.
Proposed: The government does not intervene in the marketplace with regards to Democratic Workers' Councils.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 21:24:11, November 22, 2016 CET | From | Dorvische Sozial Nationale Volkspartei | To | Debating the Government conservative bill 4124 |
Message | Mr Speaker, Because we think article 1 and 2 will be controversial we will explain. We have to toughen the armed forces and keep them concentrated on the job and that is defending dorvik. By segregating female units we create higher morale and a sense of pride within these units that will lead to extreme motivation and determination inside the army. Bryan von Braum, Chancellor of the DKF |
Date | 01:31:43, November 23, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Government conservative bill 4124 |
Message | Mr. von Braum, then elighten us plese with your justification of the first proposal. Because this gibberish which you provided us with explains nothing. How do you expect soldiers to concentrate on the job while they will be condemned for being who they are? Stupidity of this government know as I assume no bounds... Aaron Posse, DSU leader. |
Date | 13:26:30, November 23, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Government conservative bill 4124 |
Message | Mr Speaker, We are shocked to see this homophobic bill will pass due to the backing of our very own sister party! It is immoral to make homophobia in our armed forces acceptable, the DKF seems to have the opinion that if soldiers are open about their sexuality they'll start developing relationships with other soldiers. News flash, just because a soldier is put with a squad of soldiers whose gender they are attracted to doesn't mean they're going to embark on an orgy! Segregating women into separate units will have the reverse effect of what the DKF preach; these women soldiers mostly already have good friendships formed with male soldiers, they are already full of pride serving our nation! Segregating them away from friends based solely on gender is a stupid idea which will backfire. We find it baffling how this bill is a mixture of military and economic policies, but we stand against the economics in this bill too anyway, localising basic food regulation is a dangerous measure, and your policy on DWC's running businesses is actually a step closer to socialism! Meik Brandt, Parliamentary Leader of the Progress Party |
Date | 13:42:56, November 23, 2016 CET | From | Dorvische Sozial Nationale Volkspartei | To | Debating the Government conservative bill 4124 |
Message | Mr Speaker, The ignorance of all party's is very special. This shows how weak our nation has become. People that don't know or don't wanna know how to change this country. We stand firm and i have high respect for the Radical party's decision to support our daring bill. We are change, we are the future gentleman Bryan von Braum, DKF Chairman |
Date | 14:03:26, November 23, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Government conservative bill 4124 |
Message | Mr von Braum, What makes our nation weak is the old fashioned, out of place values your party supports. There's change then there's change for the sake of change like your party wants, but when it comes to TRUE change your party cowers under the table, such as cutting taxes so our citizens can have more money in their banks. Your party does not represent change or the future, you merely echo the darker parts of our past. Meik Brandt, Parliamentary Leader of the Progress Party |
Date | 14:41:53, November 23, 2016 CET | From | Dorvische Sozial Nationale Volkspartei | To | Debating the Government conservative bill 4124 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, If we echo the darker past why is the nation voting on us then? every elections we have been growing, every election we are getting more supporters in our beautiful nation. We are not old fashioned we are populous we are strong we are Dorvisch. Bryan von Braum, DKF |
Date | 14:45:49, November 23, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Government conservative bill 4124 |
Message | Mr von Braum, You are appealing to the conservative of our population, some of which would like to hark back to that darker past. Nonetheless now the people have seen more of your true colours, hopefully next time they will see sense and abandon ship. Meik Brandt, Parliamentary Leader of the Progress Party |
Date | 15:33:54, November 23, 2016 CET | From | Dorvische Sozial Nationale Volkspartei | To | Debating the Government conservative bill 4124 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, We are appealing to the conservatives? I guess almost everyone in our nation is conservative? We are a right wing-conservative party yes and we stand for our believes. |
Date | 16:39:01, November 23, 2016 CET | From | Vorwärts Republik! | To | Debating the Government conservative bill 4124 |
Message | Mr Speaker, We did support the bill as we believe that the pros of the bill outway the single con which is article one. We don't understand why article one has been included, in the end we have to withdraw our support from the bill for the time being and vote against. |
Date | 17:13:04, November 23, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Government conservative bill 4124 |
Message | Mr von Braum, Don't overstate your own importance, remember you got 41% of the vote, that's far removed from what I call "almost everyone in our nation". As for my colleagues in the Radical Party, we thank you for withdrawing your support from this bill! Meik Brandt, Parliamentary Opposition Leader |
Date | 23:57:23, November 23, 2016 CET | From | Dorvische Sozial Nationale Volkspartei | To | Debating the Government conservative bill 4124 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The people vote for me and i let they're voices be heard. Is the Progress party having problems with that? Having problems with the fact that our party listens to the people that support it? Bryan von Braum, DKF Chairman |
Date | 01:05:03, November 24, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Government conservative bill 4124 |
Message | Mr Speaker, Round of applause, people vote for you! Goodness me that's a new one on me, I didn't know people voted for parties. *roaring laughter across the opposition benches* Well our party listens to the voices of the people that votes for us, and also, the people that do not, we listen to everyone's voices. Meik Brandt, Parliamentary Opposition Leader |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes | Total Seats: 208 | |||
no |
Total Seats: 277 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 15 |
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