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Bill: Socialist Program 4126
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partito Giustizialista
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 4127
Description[?]:
| The Socialist Party - PRI presents the following proposals -- though not as part of the government agenda. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Train Operating Companies (TOC).
Old value:: Private companies operate TOCs throughout the country.
Current: Private companies operate TOCs throughout the country.
Proposed: The State owns and operates a national TOC, alongside private TOCs.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Current: The state does not provide child benefit.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning farm size.
Old value:: Farm size is not regulated.
Current: Farm size regulations are determined by local governments.
Proposed: Farms that grow too large are broken up and the land redistributed.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the export of weapons to other nations.
Old value:: The government must approve all arms sales on a case by case basis.
Current: The government allows all arms to be exported freely.
Proposed: The government does not allow arms to be exported.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The funding of sports clubs.
Old value:: The government does not fund sports clubs; only private ones are allowed.
Current: The government does not fund sports clubs; only private ones are allowed.
Proposed: The government funds some sports clubs side-by-side with private ones.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding sexually explicit material on broadcast television.
Old value:: All sexually explicit material is allowed on television.
Current: Nudity on television is banned.
Proposed: Sexually explicit material is allowed, but violent or hard core pornography is banned.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on advertising
Old value:: All advertising is permitted.
Current: All advertising is permitted.
Proposed: Only advertising that meets certain set standards is permitted.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:17:25, November 27, 2016 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the Socialist Program 4126 |
| Message | Giorgio Accorsi, ISLP: "my party cannot support this bill" (OOC: I invite PS to read the parliamentary rules about the form to present a bill: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=481875) |
| Date | 21:24:42, November 27, 2016 CET | From | Partito del Patriota d'Istalia | To | Debating the Socialist Program 4126 |
| Message | No! I agree with articles 1,2 and 6 but every other article is an infringement on personal and economic freedoms. Remove at least most of articles 3,4,5 and 7 and then I will think about supporting this bill. |
| Date | 21:40:26, November 27, 2016 CET | From | Partito Giustizialista | To | Debating the Socialist Program 4126 |
| Message | OOC: Like I have said before, I strongly oppose the parliamentary rules that have been imposed -- I frankly think they butcher all creativity and fun of the game. The entire gameplay is about proposing bills, and I'm not going to let one thing be dictated by some obscure and -- no offense -- pointless rules. They serve no purpose but to force all players into a pattern that certain others think looks better. I ask to be exempted from the 'Parliamentary Rules of the Istalian Republic'. |
| Date | 22:35:01, November 27, 2016 CET | From | Popolari per l'Istalia - U.o.L. | To | Debating the Socialist Program 4126 |
| Message | RP Parliamentary Rules of the Istalian Republic (http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=481875): [2] It's compulsory for the members of Parliament (players) to enter in the title of each bill that are going to propose to the Parliament the following specifications: 2.a) "D.d.l." (Disegno di legge): if it is a government's initiative bill, and therefore proposed by the government (through the parties that support him in parliament) after approval by the Council of Ministers; 2.b) "P.d.l." (Proposta di legge): in case the bill is proposed by a member of parliament individually or from his political group (in the opposition or into the government's majority). 2.c) If a D.d.l bill don't have none of two entries listed under the paragraph 2.a) and 2.b), this is considered as if it were a P.d.l. (non-governmental bill). |
| Date | 04:30:07, November 28, 2016 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the Socialist Program 4126 |
| Message | The parliamentary rules was approved with a majority of 2/3 of the parliament when proposed. We followed all the procedures for RP, it was not imposed by anyone. And I think that all the players that enter in a nation have to respect the existing RP. If there are problems or something that don't like all the players have the right to propose changement on the RP rules to be approved from the 2/3 of the players, not only those with seats. But about the limitation, I can't understand how could limit the players and their creativity. You are free to propose what you want and to write in the description what you want. What change if you write for example "P.d.l. 01/4127 - Law on the reform of the welfare" rather "Law on the reform of the welfare"? It's a way to be more similar to italy and to be more realistic. You too proposed a bill to be more similar to italy, it isn't? I explained why in that case it's preferable an ood number, it's something which affect the game. But this rules, especially the article about the Pdl or Ddl, do not affect the game or the creativity. Do not impose neither limitations on the arguments neither on the caracter or the history of the parties. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 219 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 386 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Particracy isn't just a game, it also has a forum, where players meet up to discuss role-playing, talk about in-game stuff, run their own newspaper or organisation and even discuss non-game and real-life issues! Check it out: http://forum.particracy.net/ |
| Random quote: "The worst thing the bad guys can do is force us to doubt the good ones." - Viria Agelasta, former Selucian politician |