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Bill: P.d.l. 03/4128 - Riforma del Numero dei Parlamentari/Parliament Member's Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Nuova Socialdemocrazia
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 4128
Description[?]:
| Given the rightful remarks made by PPI (Populars) about the advantage to have a number multiple of 5, my party proposes to adopt a number of 635 seats for the Camera dei Deputati. Thank you |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The total number of seats in the legislative assembly. Should be between 75 and 750.
Old value:: 605
Current: 450
Proposed: 635
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:49:36, November 30, 2016 CET | From | Partito Giustizialista | To | Debating the P.d.l. 03/4128 - Riforma del Numero dei Parlamentari/Parliament Member's Reform |
| Message | I would suggest that, rather than be slave to this "divisible by 5" rule, we simply repeal the law that forces equal representation to each region. The number of seats to each region should only depend on population, in order to ensure that each vote counts equally much. I will propose an amendment shortly. |
| Date | 14:58:06, November 30, 2016 CET | From | Partito Giustizialista | To | Debating the P.d.l. 03/4128 - Riforma del Numero dei Parlamentari/Parliament Member's Reform |
| Message | Actually, I see now that seats per region *are* given representation based on population size, and that they don't have an enforced equal number. This means that we can have 631 seats without any problems. |
| Date | 15:28:07, November 30, 2016 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the P.d.l. 03/4128 - Riforma del Numero dei Parlamentari/Parliament Member's Reform |
| Message | As said into a private message, independently by the option we could choice: the difference of population are so little that currenty, with the law which already graants a proportional distribution of the seats based on the population http://classic.particracy.net/viewvariables.php?nationid=39, the number of seat for eachone is the same. The "problem" which "make us slave", it's part of the "mechanics of the game", not something that we can modify. The concept "divisible by 5" avoid bug and other technical problems of the game. I support this bill |
| Date | 21:30:17, November 30, 2016 CET | From | Partito Giustizialista | To | Debating the P.d.l. 03/4128 - Riforma del Numero dei Parlamentari/Parliament Member's Reform |
| Message | Like I have said already (also in private message), as long as the distribution of seats among regions is proportional, and not the "equal regardless of population size" option, then having 631 deputies will work perfectly well. Virtually all countries have regions with more or less equal population size, and they do it just fine. You have to simply take my word on this, as it seems like many of you have never played anywhere where the current Istalian "divisible by 5" principle has not been in place. I have, however -- and again, I'm telling you: it will work just fine with 631. |
| Date | 11:43:32, December 01, 2016 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the P.d.l. 03/4128 - Riforma del Numero dei Parlamentari/Parliament Member's Reform |
| Message | OOC: ok, let's leave the history of divisibility by 5. I, personally, prefer 635 for an aesthetic issue only. I like more to read "635" rather than "631" :P |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 433 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 172 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: References to prominent real-life persons are not allowed. This includes references to philosophies featuring the name of a real-life person (eg. "Marxism", "Thatcherism", "Keynesianism"). |
| Random quote: "A countryman between two lawyers is like a fish between two cats." - Benjamin Franklin |