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Bill: Dorvisch Military Reform C of October 4128
Details
Submitted by[?]: Konservative Union
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 4130
Description[?]:
Plan by DSU Defence Spokesman Jacob Mitter. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government's position on paramilitaries.
Old value:: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Current: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Proposed: Paramilitaries are allowed but are heavily regulated by the government.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 15:25:27, December 03, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Dorvisch Military Reform C of October 4128 |
Message | Correction : There is a mistake in the title it should be of course 4129. |
Date | 15:37:43, December 03, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Dorvisch Military Reform C of October 4128 |
Message | Mr Speaker, Your party needs to stop pushing for this dangerous proposal. If anyone within your party knew their history, they will recall the dangerous NFPP's paramilitary of the 4060s and 70s. Paramilitaries, even if heavily regulated are dangerous and wholly unnecessary! Felix Hoehmann, State Chancellor |
Date | 15:52:30, December 03, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Dorvisch Military Reform C of October 4128 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, let me explain what is a paramilitary organization to clear and put to end any demonization of this institution. Paramilitary organization is a body which has military structure or very simmilar but is not included as the part of the country's Military Forces. Heavy regulations do not allow paramilitaries to be connected to any political party and makes them responsible to ministry of defence and reports from its activity is presented to the MoD. Currently we have numerous paramilitary organisations not recognized by our government. I don't know if you are fammiliar with National Defence Leauge or Dorvisch Riflemen's Association. Aaron Posse. |
Date | 01:19:34, December 04, 2016 CET | From | Sozialistische Zukunftspartei | To | Debating the Dorvisch Military Reform C of October 4128 |
Message | ~~Westmarkisch Zeitung~~ Sources close the Westmarkisch Linke Separatisten have confirmed their conditional support for the Dorvisch Military Reform C of October 4128 to the Westmarkisch Zeitung. The source reported was driven by pragmatic self interest. "There's been significant debate among the leadership on this issue. But ultimately, this proposal may see us able to acquire the necessary 'tools' for our revolutionary purposes while also providing protection from Dorvisch authorities as they wont be able to use anti-paramilitary laws to continue to stymie our organisation" the sourced was quoted as saying. |
Date | 12:44:01, December 04, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Dorvisch Military Reform C of October 4128 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, I repeat because the WLS leadership does not seem to understand the issue. Political movements and parties are not allowed to hold any controll over paramilitaries. Let's wait for the upcoming election so that we will be able to see the WLS weak support throughuot the country. And especially in their alleged stronghold Westmark... Aaron Posse. |
Date | 16:28:22, December 04, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Dorvisch Military Reform C of October 4128 |
Message | Mr Speaker, The WLS has literally just summed up our fears about legalising paramilitaries. It is too slippery a slope to risk falling down, we urge the DSU if this proposal is ever proposed again to oppose it, for the sake of our nations security. Felix Hoehmann, State Chancellor of the Dorvish Republic |
Date | 21:55:59, December 04, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Dorvisch Military Reform C of October 4128 |
Message | Mr. Hoehmann, we are indeed going to intorduce this proposal again because current law does not recognize the organizations I've listed above and despite the fact they are not part of our military they prepare our citizens to cmbat roles (organizations like Riflemens' Association). Heavy regulations will make them subordinate to the Ministry of Defence and The Armed Forces will be used if any insubordination will be detected. Aaron Posse. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes | Total Seats: 221 | |||
no |
Total Seats: 279 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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