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Bill: Social Benefit Expansion 4130
Details
Submitted by[?]: Sozialistische Zukunftspartei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 4130
Description[?]:
| All proposal to centralise and expand that provision of state benefits for all workers. "The old reactionary parties offer the Westmarkish people no vision and no alternative. It is time for us to forge own destiny, free of the imperialist Dorvisch agenda.". Hermann Gladki First Comrade of the Westmarkisch Linke Separatisten |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state offers a voluntary public pension, combined with other voluntary private pensions.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state operates a compulsory, public pension system.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:36:12, December 04, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Social Benefit Expansion 4130 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, No vision and lack of alternative is presented in this proposal. In order to fulfill provisions presented by this bill we would have to seure funds to provide benefits for every family in our country and we would have to do that by increased taxation, meaning lowering the real income of the families in our country. Instead of doing so we offer the people of Dorvik the alternative of distributing their money on their own and not being dependent on the governmental provision. Let people work and let them have their money. The second proposal... it's just pure violation of people freedom of choice. Many private Pension Funds offer better conditions for the individuals than those offered by the state one, why should we impose a ban for the people to make their choices? Why does the WLS assume that people don't know what is best for them? Maybe because they represent the thievish, rotten values of communism? Aaron Posse |
| Date | 16:24:23, December 04, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Social Benefit Expansion 4130 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, I think Mr Posse of the DSU has summed up our thoughts. Guaranteeing child benefits to all families is wasteful and a silly idea; millionaires would be included in this, we would be giving benefits to millionaires! Plus if a family is struggling financially to bring up a child, that would put them under the category of low income and they would receive the benefits. As for the second proposal, we again wholeheartedly agree with Mr Posse's words that it is a "pure violation of people's freedom of choice", authoritarianism is not welcome in Dorvik! Felix Hoehmann, State Chancellor of the Dorvish Republic |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 123 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 377 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Information about the population of each country can be found on the Population Information thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8663 |
| Random quote: "Prejudices subsist in people's imagination long after they have been destroyed by their experience." - Ernest Dimnet |