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Bill: State Secularisation 4130
Details
Submitted by[?]: Sozialistische Zukunftspartei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 4130
Description[?]:
| A proposal to awaken the masses from their opiated religious slumber. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religions shall be regulated by the law, but shall be borne by the religious communities themselves.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Proposed: There is no official state religion, but the government only allows recognized religions. 'Cults' are persecuted.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:50:20, December 04, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the State Secularisation 4130 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The porodowe bill is exactly the opposite of secularization. By voting in favour of this bill we would conneect the state and the church with the law provisions and government would interfere in a very significant way on internal issues of the church which is not acceptable since we demand total neutrality groom the church and how come we expect the church officials to follow this rule when we interfere in such a way? Aaron Posse, DSU leader. |
| Date | 13:50:20, December 04, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the State Secularisation 4130 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The porodowe bill is exactly the opposite of secularization. By voting in favour of this bill we would conneect the state and the church with the law provisions and government would interfere in a very significant way on internal issues of the church which is not acceptable since we demand total neutrality groom the church and how come we expect the church officials to follow this rule when we interfere in such a way? Aaron Posse, DSU leader. |
| Date | 13:51:26, December 04, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the State Secularisation 4130 |
| Message | Correction: "proposed' in the first line |
| Date | 16:21:22, December 04, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the State Secularisation 4130 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We strongly support the first proposal as it is a sensible and rational idea. However the second proposal we simply cannot endorse, it is the opposite of secularization as our colleagues of in the Official Opposition have stated. We shall oppose this bill. Felix Hoehmann, State Chancellor of the Dorvish Republic |
| Date | 23:32:05, December 04, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the State Secularisation 4130 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I do not see why interference in the inside matters of the church is such a great idea. If we treat church as a company by taxation of churches assets why do we interfere in their own matters? Do we regulate the salaries of Car Companies Workers? No we don't. And if we want the church to not interfere in the state's issues then we should leave churche's issues to interfere with for them. Aaron Posse. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 500 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: "Treaty-locking", or ratifiying treaties that completely or nearly completely forbid any proposals to change laws, is not allowed. Amongst other possible sanctions, Moderation reserves the discretion to delete treaties and/or subject parties to a seat reset if this is necessary in order to reverse a treaty-lock situation. |
| Random quote: "We can only protect liberty by making it relevant to the modern world." - Tony Blair |