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Bill: National Service Removal 4130
Details
Submitted by[?]: Fortschrittsvereinigung
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4131
Description[?]:
| As many will know, a key point of the Progress Party is removal of national service, and we intend to try our best to implement this. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Proposed: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:01:42, December 05, 2016 CET | From | Libertären Partei | To | Debating the National Service Removal 4130 |
| Message | Mr speaker, We also oppose a national service. However, in a time of war the country is in trouble and needs all soldiers they can get. In those times we believe it is in the best interest of the people to have a national service. Arend Beyer, chairman of the freiheit partei. |
| Date | 20:06:27, December 05, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the National Service Removal 4130 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, The problem with a system like this is how loosely can a war be defined? Also not everyone would be right for service, although they could physically and mentally pass the tests for administration, the experience may wound them, and they may wish not to be involved with the conflict. Also there's the conscientious objector factor, we should not force these people into service. Instead service should merely be highly encouraged. Felix Hoehmann, State Chancellor of the Dorvish Republic |
| Date | 20:35:19, December 05, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the National Service Removal 4130 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, times of war are defined by the law and it is a time when two ore more countries have delcared war on each other and withdrew their diplomatic missions from the country with proclamation of war sent to the head of state or government. So do not make a problem out of something which isn't one. That's why we have militay comission when classification is awarded from A - capable of military service in times of war and peace, to the E category - inable of militry service at any time. Aaron Posse. |
| Date | 20:58:16, December 05, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the National Service Removal 4130 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I hope that right judgement will be made by the citizens of Dorvik in the upcoming elections and this badly justified proposal will be repealed. Aaron Posse. |
| Date | 22:11:12, December 05, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the National Service Removal 4130 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We DEMAND this issue to be put to referendum. As soon as the new cabinet is going to be formed we propose the referendum proposal. Overwhelming majority of Dorvish citizens support military service which was clearly visiblle in 4050 Referendum. Let ask our citizens one more time. (http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Dorvik_National_Service_Referendum_4050). Aaron Posse. DSU leader. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 279 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 221 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Submitting a bill without any proposals in it will not attract or detract voters. It will not raise your visibility or change your political position. |
| Random quote: "Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American...[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." - Tenche Coxe |