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Bill: The defence bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Traditionelle Völker Partei für Dorvik
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 4133
Description[?]:
| A bill to improve defence. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the use of land mines by the army.
Old value:: The use of land mines is allowed but restricted.
Current: The use of land mines is allowed but restricted.
Proposed: The use of land mines is allowed.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government's position on paramilitaries.
Old value:: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Current: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Proposed: Paramilitaries are allowed but are heavily regulated by the government.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:22:44, December 05, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the The defence bill |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, since we are for allowing for paramilitaries organizations existance with heavy regulations we would vote in favour of this proposal unfortunatelly we are against land mine usage withour restriction and therefore cannot vote in favour. Aaron Posse. |
| Date | 21:44:47, December 08, 2016 CET | From | Libertären Partei | To | Debating the The defence bill |
| Message | Once again you propose a bill that is too big. That is why we oppose this bill. |
| Date | 22:58:47, December 08, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the The defence bill |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Allowing paramilitaries is a dangerous idea as we have said many times. If the Traditionalists knew of the nations history, they would understand why we cannot have them! Bernhart Günzburg, Leader of the Progress Party & Chairperson of the Progress/Radical Alliance |
| Date | 23:07:28, December 08, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the The defence bill |
| Message | Mr. Gunzburg, If only the Progress leader knew what HEAVY regulation mean... we support this article of this bill and will vote in favour if presented separatelt, as I said in the past current law does not recognize such organizations as Riflemen's Association who are groups of well trained men who could be mobilized in case of military conflict but they are not considered as a paramilitary group and therefore their presence is worthless... We offer our support for this proposal if presented separately. Aaron Posse, Staatskanzler der Dorvisch Republik. |
| Date | 23:17:14, December 08, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the The defence bill |
| Message | Mr Posse, Even WITH heavy regulation, it is simply too dangerous a idea to entertain. Even if regulated to stay small, a paramilitary could go rogue, perhaps a secret terrorists organisation. By the time it is realised such a paramilitary has broken the law, too late, the damage will have been done. Even though it is a rare circumstance, it happening even once would have devastating results. We will never allow the passing of that bill, it is simply too dangerousl Bernhart Günzburg, Leader of the Progress Party & Chairperson of the Progress/Radical Alliance |
| Date | 23:23:07, December 08, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the The defence bill |
| Message | Mr. Gunzburg, you seroiusly have to be kidding all of us... registered paramilitary group under heavy regulations from the government and subordinate to the Ministry of Defence becoming a secret terrorist organization.... I'm sorry but I am about to burst into laughter. Yes you've discovered the secret path to form a terrorist organization you Sherlock... this is how they do it. I'm sorry but I find your argumentation as irrelevant and too childlish to be taken seriously. Aaron Posse, Staatskanzler der Dorvisch Republic. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 9 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 491 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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