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Bill: National Service Removal Act 4138
Details
Submitted by[?]: Fortschrittsvereinigung
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 4139
Description[?]:
| As currently well known, one of our party's trademark policies is to remove National Service in any form. Even in times of war, we should not force our young men and women into the armed forces, some are simply not built for the military in any form, we need to stop this highly authoritarian practise. In times of war we should instead encourage further recruitment through choice, not through force. Now our State Council thankfully, most likely has enough members willing to vote for its removal once and for all, we proudly place this bill up for a vote in the State Council! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Proposed: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:08:28, December 21, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the National Service Removal Act 4138 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Are we really going to change our military service law every time a new cabinet is in the majority? This is very irrational, dangerous move lowering the security of our country. The same can be seen in the flag desacration bill. Fabian Basinger, DSU leader. |
| Date | 00:11:32, December 22, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the National Service Removal Act 4138 |
| Message | Mr Basinger, Hopefully the policy on national service will not continue to fluctuate, because hopefully we will permanently remove it! Your rationale we could argue is instead dangerous, we should not force people into serving our country in times of war in the form of military service. If anything it is a better move for the security of our country, as without the service, in times of war we will only have fully committed and patriotic soldiers serving, not the reluctant people we are only angering by forcing their service. As for your statement about the flag desecration bill, that is utterly unrelated to this, and how does burning a symbol endanger national security? Sara Voight, Parliamentary Leader of the Progress Party, Finance Minister |
| Date | 00:21:49, December 22, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the National Service Removal Act 4138 |
| Message | Mrs. Voight, "permanently remove it" please don't make me laugh... I HEARBY PROMISE THAT IF IN THE FUTURE UNION OF DORVISCH CONSERVATIVES will regain majority the military service will be restored to ensure the security of our citizens. The flag desacration is not seen as a threat to national security but to national integrity and our culture and tradition and I spoke about the flag desacration bill more as an example of jostlings in the State Councill. Fritz Bauer, DSU leader. |
| Date | 14:59:48, December 22, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the National Service Removal Act 4138 |
| Message | Mr Bauer, So one rule for you, another for me? If you're in power you commit to one policy, if I'm in power your demand a referendum. You blast me for doing the same thing you would do in my shoes, hypocrisy at is finest! As I have stated, that is an entirely separate issue to that of which is presented in this bill. Sara Voight, Parliamentary Leader of the Progress Party, Finance Minister |
| Date | 15:15:43, December 22, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the National Service Removal Act 4138 |
| Message | Mrs. Voight, Your party starter this crisis with military service removal in the first place a decade ago and your party did not hold a referendum on the issue which clearly should be resolved with a referendum. Fritz Bauer, DSU leader. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 264 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 236 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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