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Bill: Repealing Outdated Treaties Act of 4142
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Luthori
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill proposes the withdrawal from a treaty. It will require half of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 4142
Description[?]:
| Mr. Speaker, This bill is part of the government's overarching foreign policy, which is a complete revamp of our worldview from that of a lagging and inward-looking nation to one that is more internationalist and current. That starts with withdrawing from outdated treaties that have no significance in world affairs. I yield. The Rt Hon. Kenneth Buckley MD Imperial Prime Minister |
Proposals
Article 1
Withdraw from the Walburg Conference.
Article 2
Withdraw from the Inter-Parlimentary Union.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:08:41, December 28, 2016 CET | From | Luthorian Workers Party | To | Debating the Repealing Outdated Treaties Act of 4142 |
| Message | The prime minister says that our foreign policy is being revamped from a lagging inward-looking nation to one that is more internationalist and current, yet he is proposing that we exit from two treaties that are just that, internationalist and current. Treaties that foster international cooperation. The Walburg conference, for instance, is a treaty between nations, with the purpose of" To provide a forum where influential people could meet and talk about ways that help promote understanding in Terra - and prevent future wars. They could focus on what their countries had in common and bounce ideas off each other that could make life better for everyone. The Group will discuss issues like world politics, world economy, enviroment, arms control, technological innovations, etc., discussions that will lead to world peace, a stronger world economy and a better living enviroment for Terrans. The original intention of the Walburg Group is to further the understanding between the nations around Terra through informal meetings between powerful individuals." The Inter-Parlimentary Union is an organization that aims to "serve as a global organization that fosters peace and goodwill through parliamentary cooperation, as well as promoting democratic institutions and helping national parliaments." How exactly, Prime Minister, is our leaving these treaties and organizations going to move us from an "inward-looking nation to one that is more internationalist and current." It would seem to me that doing what you propose would accomplish the exact opposite of what it is you claim to be working towards. I yield. Edison Turner Leader of the LWP |
| Date | 17:31:39, December 28, 2016 CET | From | United Luthori | To | Debating the Repealing Outdated Treaties Act of 4142 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I particularly enjoy listening to my colleague, Mr. Turner, speak, since thankfully, at any given moment, half of what he says is simply someone else's words. Nonetheless, I'd like to respond to his charge. Firstly, the Walburg Conference is centuries old and only a handful of nations even have this on their dusty old law books. The conference is outdated, old, and never has taken place. We need to look forward, not behind. Also, how can Mr. Turner justify Luthori's continued membership in the Inter-Parlimentary Union, which is spelled incorrectly by the way, when there are literally two members, including us? Now I know two is the average number of people who attend Mr. Turner's rallies, but for nations, that's a pathetic number for a useless organization. I yield. The Rt Hon. Kenneth Buckley MD Imperial Prime Minister |
| Date | 17:44:06, December 28, 2016 CET | From | Luthorian Workers Party | To | Debating the Repealing Outdated Treaties Act of 4142 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Prime Minister Buckley is telling us that because the Walburg Conference is centuries old it is no good. It is, in his words, outdated and old. (Ergo it is useless he says.) We should be, he says, looking forward and not back. By this standard our monarchy should be abandoned and replaced with something else, something newer, something "forward." Will next Prime Minister Buckley come before this body with a proposal to absolve the monarchy? Or are things that are old and time tested only outdated and obsolete when it fits the agenda of the prime minister? I yield. Edison Turner Leader of the LWP |
| Date | 20:43:00, December 28, 2016 CET | From | United Luthori | To | Debating the Repealing Outdated Treaties Act of 4142 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, It is near treasonous to suggest the monarchy is obselete, and to compare it to such an outdated institution as the Walburg Conference could constitute grounds for a special investigation. I jest... to an extent. The fact of the matter is that Her Majesty continues to play a role as head of stare, and she is invaluable to our culture and national unity. This treaty garners much fewer than half the nations in Terra. I yield. The Rt Hon. Kenneth Buckley MD Imperial Prime Minister |
| Date | 21:01:33, December 28, 2016 CET | From | Luthorian Workers Party | To | Debating the Repealing Outdated Treaties Act of 4142 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Primer Minister Buckley concedes the point that his logic is only applicable to that which he wants it to be applicable, it doesn't extend to those institutions that are dated but yet have his support. It is, in this sense, that it isn't logic at all. Consider, even, how he says because the conference isn't attended by at least half of the nations in Terra, that it is useless and pointless. How many nations in Terra are a monarchy? Is it fewer than half? If more than half of the nations of Terra were not monarchies would Prime Minister Buckley come down to this hall and call for the abolition of the monarchy in our nation? I yield, Edison Turner Leader of the LWP |
| Date | 21:41:43, December 28, 2016 CET | From | United Luthori | To | Debating the Repealing Outdated Treaties Act of 4142 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Being a signatory nation of the Walburg Conference is about as significant as being a signatory nation of a treaty for nations who prefer coffee over tea. It is completely pointless and arbitrary, and it is by sheer whim that we did not withdraw earlier. Our monarchy is ingrained in our history. The conferences, if they ever even took place, are not. We are less concerned about ensuring we withdraw than we are surprised that there is such opposition to what we consider to be purely administrative procedure akin to cleaning up house. I yield. The Rt Hon. Kenneth Buckley MD Imperial Prime Minister |
| Date | 21:52:45, December 28, 2016 CET | From | Luthorian Workers Party | To | Debating the Repealing Outdated Treaties Act of 4142 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I, for one, am absolutely flabbergasted to hear such incendiary commentary from the Prime Minister of, what at least is supposed to be, a modern and civilized nation. Preferring coffee to tea is insignificant?! Insignificant?! Since when is barbarism insignificant?! That's simply unacceptable and the speaker would do well to caution the Prime Minister that such talk is out of line and he's likely to be found out of order if he continues engaging in unsavory talk. I yield. Edison Turner Leader of the LWP |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 287 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 274 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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