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Bill: Nomenclature of Government Offices
Details
Submitted by[?]: Shuggoth Progressive Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2192
Description[?]:
| Seeing how contentious this issue has been historically, this is an attempt to go back into Luthori history, back to our roots, and choose names that are acceptable and inoffensive to all. These terms come from the agrarian civilization that flourished along the Luthori coast, prior to the arrival of the Deltarians. Taoiseach is the Head of State. It may be pronounced "tee-shoch" (with the "ch" sound as in "loch") Tánaiste is the Head of Government. It may be pronounced "taw-nish-tuh". Oireachtas is the legislative body.It may be pronounced "or-yech-tuhs" (with the "ch" sound as in "loch") |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The title of the head of government, who chairs the cabinet.
Old value:: The Archbishop of Oalapo
Current: Prime Minister
Proposed: Tánaiste
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: Holy Luthori Emperor
Current: His Irrevocable Imperial Majesty, by the Almighty's Grace, Inheritor of the House of Elior, Inheritor of the House of Orange-Villayn, Inheritor of the House of Rothingren-Traugott, Albert, Emperor of Luthori, King of Mordusia, King of Rutania, Meleh (King) of the Yeudi Homeland, Head of the House of Orange-Villayn Armstead, Duke of Alcarie, Duke of Canterwall, Holder of the Yeudi Crown of 8 Gems, Supreme Governor of the Church, Defender of the Faith, Defender of the Holy Land.
Proposed: Taoiseach
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The official title of the legislative assembly.
Old value:: Imperial Synod
Current: Imperial Diet (lower house), Imperial Senate (upper house)
Proposed: Oireachtas
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:43:06, February 05, 2006 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | you're Irish too then. :D I'll vote yes. |
| Date | 01:12:23, February 06, 2006 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | Damned, teh Conservative Party had to show those names to his girlfriend, who is a philologist, in order to understand what they stood for. |
| Date | 01:12:41, February 06, 2006 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | The Conservative Party had to show those names to his girlfriend, who is a philologist, in order to understand what they stood for. |
| Date | 02:12:54, February 06, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | Damned republicans! We'll kill you all and send you to hell. |
| Date | 05:22:55, February 06, 2006 CET | From | Shuggoth Progressive Party | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | Ah, PUP be careful, your "compassionate conservatism" is showing again. |
| Date | 05:29:39, February 06, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | The Celts are taking over Luthori. FEAR US. FEAR THE CELTS. (I am also of Celtic origin) |
| Date | 13:16:18, February 06, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | Brigadier Tetley apologises for his outburst and puts it down to a flashback from the war. While Celtic titles may enhance our uniqueness I stand by our objection to republicanism. 'High King' would be acceptable to us as HoS. 'Taoiseach' could be HoG. |
| Date | 17:39:48, February 06, 2006 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | Taoiseach just means Leader, it has nothing to do with republicanism. |
| Date | 19:36:31, February 06, 2006 CET | From | Shuggoth Progressive Party | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | Indeed, the surviving historical evidence does not indicate that the agrarian "People of the Sea" had ever even considered representative government; their society appears to have been either a pure monarchy, or perhaps a decentralized feudal system. |
| Date | 17:37:10, February 27, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | This contains no measures to gain our support by compensating the loss of our beloved Emperor with some kind of restoration or devolution or moral issues. |
| Date | 18:06:40, February 27, 2006 CET | From | Shuggoth Progressive Party | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | This bill only changes the NAME of the office of the Emperor. (and name of legislature and name of the HoG) He is still the same person. We are still a monarchy if this passes. And as we have said repeatedly, we will not tie your immoral legislation to any constitutional changes that are merely cosmetic. |
| Date | 18:10:09, February 27, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | Then we won't vote for any secularisation or republicanisation of our titles. |
| Date | 02:11:21, February 28, 2006 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | CDU; just because a name is Irish doesn't mean it's republican =P. |
| Date | 09:31:27, February 28, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | Taoiseach is the name of the Irish Prime Minister: not King or Emperor. |
| Date | 17:23:43, February 28, 2006 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | The kings of Ireland would also have been called taoiseachs. It translates as leader. |
| Date | 17:37:00, February 28, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | What's the Irish title for the President then? Where's this Tánaiste word come from? |
| Date | 18:23:36, February 28, 2006 CET | From | Shuggoth Progressive Party | To | Debating the Nomenclature of Government Offices |
| Message | The Tánaiste was the heir apparent to an ancient Celtic chief, elected during the chief's lifetime. I chose it to be someone of less stature than the HoS, but still someone important. I have no idea what the Irish President is called in Gaelic. And of course there is no Ireland ingame, we just have a historical group of ethnic Celts who once lived on our (Luthori) coast, whose descendants still live among us. If you don't like the names, fine, vote against them. But I don't see how it has anything to do with the Irish Republic in the real world. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 410 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 241 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 99 |
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