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Bill: IMPORTANT: New HoS Title
Details
Submitted by[?]: Front Canrillaise
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2186
Description[?]:
| Now that the HoS and HoG have merged I think a new title is in order. I say this because Alduria also is using Chairman, and so we need to be unique I suppose. Also, it would be weird to refer to a female HoS as a ChairMAN. So any suggestions? |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: Chairman
Current: Chef de l'État Rildanorien (Head of the Rildanorian State)
Proposed: President
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:22:29, February 05, 2006 CET | From | Lutte Féministe de Libération | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | Governor is a regional title, not a national figure. While I'm not opposed to getting a new HoS title, we should look beyond that. Can't think of any now, though, other than Chairperson. |
| Date | 03:57:31, February 06, 2006 CET | From |  Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | Yeah I just put Governor in there for the sake of putting it there. i'm open to new and unique suggestions. |
| Date | 05:02:06, February 06, 2006 CET | From | Devout Ecologists Party | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | Eek, you are so right about the gender of Chairman. In that vein I am for change aswell. But I can't think of any good titles currently. |
| Date | 19:53:26, February 06, 2006 CET | From | Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | How about Chairman-President Exalted Leader President Rildaminister etc. |
| Date | 21:48:55, February 06, 2006 CET | From | Mouvement des Conservateurs | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | I like 'President' |
| Date | 01:08:44, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Lutte Féministe de Libération | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | President is fine by me. |
| Date | 04:58:34, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | Fine for me too but the last time I introduced President I failed to garner enough support. Maybe this time all parties can agree? I still need the support of both the PNUM and the DEP. |
| Date | 16:44:31, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Mouvement des Conservateurs | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | 400 will be needed to pass, but I think you might want to wait till after the elections, the problem is that we have two inactive parties which makes constitutional changes very difficult to pass. |
| Date | 20:13:25, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Devout Ecologists Party | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | I hate President. Besides, you said "I say this because Alduria also is using Chairman, and so we need to be unique I suppose." and President is one of the most commonly used names, is it not? And Chairman-president? You just said about gender and then you have that one amongst your proposals? President is so common, so bland, so dull and is too much related to the real world. I remember the PC proposing "Grand Pumba" once, hehe. Okay, let's see what I can think up of. Though ofcourse Majesty combined with the Monarchy bill would be nice too.. Possibilities: Sovereign, Chief, Revered, Leader, Leader of the Helm, Leader of the Nation, Visionary, Regent, Chieftain, Guide, Shepherd, Director, Notable, Eminence. Possible things which can be placed infront: The Great, The Dear, The Glorious, The Exemplary. |
| Date | 23:59:06, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | I like Sovereign. |
| Date | 00:50:25, February 08, 2006 CET | From | Lutte Féministe de Libération | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | SHEPERD!!!! |
| Date | 21:37:23, February 08, 2006 CET | From | Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | What do the other parties think? |
| Date | 11:06:07, February 09, 2006 CET | From | League of Conservatives | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | President is fine by me. |
| Date | 11:27:23, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Mouvement des Conservateurs | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | Vote on it - AYE (yes) or NEY (no) Mine: President - AYE Sheperd - NEY |
| Date | 18:01:54, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | President - AYE Sovereign - AYE Sheperd - NEY |
| Date | 20:17:02, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Devout Ecologists Party | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | President - NEY Sovereign - AYE Shepherd - AYE |
| Date | 21:28:26, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Proletariat Coalition | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | Grand Pumba! |
| Date | 00:14:28, February 10, 2006 CET | From | Lutte Féministe de Libération | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | President - AYE Sovereign - NAY Sheperd - AYE Grand Pumba - NAAAYYYYY!!!!! |
| Date | 04:55:37, February 10, 2006 CET | From | Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | No consensus... Any other suggestions? Or maybe parties willing to compromise? Chairman needs to be changed. |
| Date | 05:05:21, February 10, 2006 CET | From | Devout Ecologists Party | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | I'm for almost anything, except something so stupidly common as President. Do the NCC and/or the PC and/or others prefer any other suggestions amongst the list I provided earlier? |
| Date | 12:13:26, February 10, 2006 CET | From | Mouvement des Conservateurs | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | President - 3 (-1) 2 Sheperd - 2 (-1) 1 Sovereign - 2 (-1) 1 Grand Pumba - 1 (-1) 0 'Grand Pumba' is eliminated Only Sheperd and Sovereign are in for a rematch, President can be used in a bill and I propose we make another bill with Sheperd or Sovereign. Sheper - NEY Sovereign - AYE |
| Date | 22:38:47, February 10, 2006 CET | From | Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | Sheperd - NEY Sovereign - AYE |
| Date | 00:10:47, February 11, 2006 CET | From | Proletariat Coalition | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | I hate them both, but I prefer Shepherd. |
| Date | 00:31:43, February 11, 2006 CET | From | Lutte Féministe de Libération | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | Wait, why was the President eliminated. I suppose we'll vote for Shepherd (make sure it's spelt right) over Soveriegn, but like the Proletariat Coalition, we'd rather have neither. In fact, I'd rather have Chairman, which we don't much oppose. We'll vote to change the HoS title to one of these less desirable choices if we can have everyone's commitment to ditch the "Rotunda Assembly." |
| Date | 09:50:45, February 11, 2006 CET | From | Advanced Intellectual Party | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | Shepherd YEA Sovereign NEY |
| Date | 17:16:08, February 11, 2006 CET | From | Mouvement des Conservateurs | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | President isn't eliminated, it had the most votes but I propose we put up 2 bills, one with president and one with shepherd or sovereign. |
| Date | 23:06:10, February 13, 2006 CET | From | Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the IMPORTANT: New HoS Title |
| Message | Very well. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 135 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 370 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 95 |
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