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Bill: Head of State Title Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Socialists of Endralon
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2071
Description[?]:
The present title "First Citizen" promotes the idea that the head of state is above those who elected him/her and we blieve this is harmful to equal relations between all members of society. We propose that the title is therefore changed to "General Secretary" which we believe will bring the head of state closer to those who elected them. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 18:03:40, May 28, 2005 CET |
From | Democratic Socialists of Endralon | To | Debating the Head of State Title Act | Message | It still suggest that someone comes first although the main reason we would like to change the title is that "General Secretary" sounds more socialist and has long been used as the title for the leaders of Trade Unions and Communist parties. |
Date | 01:12:22, May 29, 2005 CET |
From | Communist Party of Endralon | To | Debating the Head of State Title Act | Message | That's just the problem with "General Secretary" - it's a title for the leader of a party or organization, not for the leader of a country.
As for "president", that's mundane and capitalist. No. |
Date | 02:54:15, May 29, 2005 CET |
From | MLC Old Endralonian Resistance | To | Debating the Head of State Title Act | Message | yes Ive got to agree with first citizen for the moment , whilst I can see the slight inequality the name infers it seems the lesser of many evils from the ideas Ive heard.
and yes president is a no. |
Date | 21:28:08, May 31, 2005 CET |
From | Democratic Socialists of Endralon | To | Debating the Head of State Title Act | Message | We will certainly put the bill up for voting if enough parties are prepared to support it. Our party believes that although "General Secretary" is more often associated with organisations it is perfectly suitable for a country and for many years it was the official title for the most important position within the Soviet Union. |
Date | 00:41:07, June 01, 2005 CET |
From | People's Liberation Front (PPP) | To | Debating the Head of State Title Act | Message | Currently, I see us two parties only supporting this measure - a total of 165 seats. Will the Communist Party and the MLC support this bill? If both those parties stick with us, we will have enough votes to pass it. |
Date | 23:03:47, June 01, 2005 CET |
From | Abandoned NFC Headquarters | To | Debating the Head of State Title Act | Message | The Nihilist Fascist Collegiality would abstain. We believe that 'First Citizen' needs to be changed, and 'General Secretary' is adequate, though not optimal. |
Date | 22:30:31, June 06, 2005 CET |
From | Abandoned NFC Headquarters | To | Debating the Head of State Title Act | Message | The Nihilist Fascist Collegiality would support this bill now. Mostly because I've gotten tired with 'First Citizen'. Makes the president sound like an overglorified immigrant. |
Date | 05:25:59, June 07, 2005 CET |
From | National Centrist Party | To | Debating the Head of State Title Act | Message | How about you just make it "Citizen" and remove the "first" part?
There's absolutely no way to make the word citizen sound pompous, so the debate on an equal title will become forever moot. |
Date | 21:55:09, June 22, 2005 CET |
From | Imperial Conservative Party | To | Debating the Head of State Title Act | Message | This party (which has no seats YET) is wholeheartedly opposed to the change and have so voted. The General Secretaries of the world have been people like Stalin, and were so called simply because they had one-party states. Party over country, I think not. A President is a President, or for the sheepish First Citizen is still better. |
Date | 21:59:38, June 22, 2005 CET |
From | Democratic Socialists of Endralon | To | Debating the Head of State Title Act | Message | Many elected leaders particularly those of trade unions have been referred to as "General Secretary" and the title has nothing to do with one party states. We support it because we believe the title brings the leader closer to the people. |
Date | 12:16:17, June 23, 2005 CET |
From | Democratic Socialists of Endralon | To | Debating the Head of State Title Act | Message | Although we prefer "General Secretary" this bill won't pass so we hope the PPP will also vote for the ISP's bill to give it a two thirds majority as "First Comrade" is better than "First Citizen". |
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