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Bill: Head of State Title Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Democratic Socialists of Endralon

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: February 2071

Description[?]:

The present title "First Citizen" promotes the idea that the head of state is above those who elected him/her and we blieve this is harmful to equal relations between all members of society. We propose that the title is therefore changed to "General Secretary" which we believe will bring the head of state closer to those who elected them.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date17:57:59, May 28, 2005 CET
From Communist Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageYou are wrong. "First Citizen" underlines the fact that the head of state is only a citizen. It means "first among equals".

Date18:03:40, May 28, 2005 CET
From Democratic Socialists of Endralon
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageIt still suggest that someone comes first although the main reason we would like to change the title is that "General Secretary" sounds more socialist and has long been used as the title for the leaders of Trade Unions and Communist parties.

Date19:17:02, May 28, 2005 CET
From Delete This Party!!!
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageHow about President?

Date01:12:22, May 29, 2005 CET
From Communist Party of Endralon
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageThat's just the problem with "General Secretary" - it's a title for the leader of a party or organization, not for the leader of a country.

As for "president", that's mundane and capitalist. No.

Date02:54:15, May 29, 2005 CET
From MLC Old Endralonian Resistance
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
Messageyes Ive got to agree with first citizen for the moment , whilst I can see the slight inequality the name infers it seems the lesser of many evils from the ideas Ive heard.

and yes president is a no.

Date15:51:38, May 29, 2005 CET
From Abandoned NFC Headquarters
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageWhy not something unique? How about 'Executor'?

Date19:29:36, May 31, 2005 CET
From People's Liberation Front (PPP)
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageAre we ever going to put this to a vote? I will support this motion.

Date21:28:08, May 31, 2005 CET
From Democratic Socialists of Endralon
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageWe will certainly put the bill up for voting if enough parties are prepared to support it. Our party believes that although "General Secretary" is more often associated with organisations it is perfectly suitable for a country and for many years it was the official title for the most important position within the Soviet Union.

Date22:02:00, May 31, 2005 CET
From Unified Communist Labor Party
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageNo.

Date00:41:07, June 01, 2005 CET
From People's Liberation Front (PPP)
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageCurrently, I see us two parties only supporting this measure - a total of 165 seats. Will the Communist Party and the MLC support this bill? If both those parties stick with us, we will have enough votes to pass it.

Date23:03:47, June 01, 2005 CET
From Abandoned NFC Headquarters
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageThe Nihilist Fascist Collegiality would abstain. We believe that 'First Citizen' needs to be changed, and 'General Secretary' is adequate, though not optimal.

Date22:30:31, June 06, 2005 CET
From Abandoned NFC Headquarters
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageThe Nihilist Fascist Collegiality would support this bill now. Mostly because I've gotten tired with 'First Citizen'. Makes the president sound like an overglorified immigrant.

Date05:25:59, June 07, 2005 CET
FromNational Centrist Party
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageHow about you just make it "Citizen" and remove the "first" part?
There's absolutely no way to make the word citizen sound pompous, so the debate on an equal title will become forever moot.

Date14:50:17, June 12, 2005 CET
From Abandoned NFC Headquarters
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageThe Nihilist Fascist Collegiality respectfully wishes the rest of Endralon to ignore these outside influences.

Date19:33:29, June 22, 2005 CET
From Imperial Conservative Party
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageSuggestions:
El Presidente
Head Honcho
Supreme Being
Atheist Ayatollah
His Imperial Majesty, without regard to said office bearer's gender.

Date21:50:51, June 22, 2005 CET
From Democratic Socialists of Endralon
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageI still believe "General Secreatry" is the best title and have decided to finally put it up for voting although I don't know the position of every party.

Date21:55:09, June 22, 2005 CET
From Imperial Conservative Party
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageThis party (which has no seats YET) is wholeheartedly opposed to the change and have so voted. The General Secretaries of the world have been people like Stalin, and were so called simply because they had one-party states. Party over country, I think not. A President is a President, or for the sheepish First Citizen is still better.

Date21:57:15, June 22, 2005 CET
From Patriotic Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
Messageno way, sounds like from the CCCP

Date21:59:38, June 22, 2005 CET
From Democratic Socialists of Endralon
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageMany elected leaders particularly those of trade unions have been referred to as "General Secretary" and the title has nothing to do with one party states. We support it because we believe the title brings the leader closer to the people.

Date22:04:54, June 22, 2005 CET
From International Socialist Party
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
Messagei would agree if we were setting up a new Endralon Socialist Alliance to fight the dark side but i would ask Comrades to support my alternative

Date22:35:38, June 22, 2005 CET
From Abandoned NFC Headquarters
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageThe Nihilist Fascist Collegiality supports this bill for reasons completely unrelated to those of the Communist parties.

Date12:16:17, June 23, 2005 CET
From Democratic Socialists of Endralon
ToDebating the Head of State Title Act
MessageAlthough we prefer "General Secretary" this bill won't pass so we hope the PPP will also vote for the ISP's bill to give it a two thirds majority as "First Comrade" is better than "First Citizen".

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
     

Total Seats: 443

no
     

Total Seats: 214

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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