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Bill: P.d.l. 03/4155 - Right of the Women Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Alleanza Radicale - NCD
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 4156
Description[?]:
| Michele Scialoja: "Like for the drugs, we will continue to propose these bills until the right of the women will be recognized by the nation. It's not right of a Government, of a husband, of a father, of a brother, of a religious representative, of also of other women, decide about the choice of a woman, decide if that woman feel herself ready or not, able or not, if she want or not to have, maintain and grow a son. As previously said: why there are not laws that oblige a man to recognize or to maintain a son? Ignore a child as could do a man would not be an act which also jeopardize that child, born or not? Because gentlemen, I would point out your attention on the fact that there are no laws that force a man to recognize a child who is already born or not. Why this nation recognize to a man this "privilege" but a woman cannot take the same decision? if all of us studied at school the reproduction (and yes, to the science course but also, thanks to the progressive forces of Istalia, to the mandatory sexual education courses), all of us know how to make a baby and that it needs of both the egg and the sperm. So, why the man could ignoring the baby as he do not exist and the woman cannot? However it seems me that contraceptives and the duty to remember to use them exist and is valid to both the sex, not only to the woman. And, dear collegues: what is preferable for a baby? Born and grow in a family that want him or obblige him to born in difficult and hard situations? And in case of malformation or any type of permanent illness, what is better? Make born a child who will probably never enjoy and experience a fully and normal life that would never give him the opportunity to fully express their skills is the best choise for him and for his family? A child that, furthermore, will be a great problem for the economies of the families and of the national security services. This law never will obblige a woman to do something, but it will gove her the possibility of the choice. Thank you" |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy of the government concerning the funding of abortions
Old value:: The government only funds abortions for medical emergencies.
Current: The government leaves the funding for abortions up to the local governments.
Proposed: The government provides funding for abortions.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortions are only allowed in medical emergencies.
Current: Abortions are only allowed in medical emergencies.
Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:32:21, January 24, 2017 CET | From | Partito dei Democratici Istaliani | To | Debating the P.d.l. 03/4155 - Right of the Women Act |
| Message | Vincenzo Marini, Leader of DI-U.o.L.: "We can't think that a person with malformation is a cost for the family and for the nation, this is pure barbarity! Everyone deserves to live and to be accepted in the world by all of us, though has malformation. Voting yes at this proposal means supporting the idea that there are A range and B range of citizens. We can't allow it. I expect apologies for all the people you injured with this speech. I would never expect this for you." |
| Date | 15:33:30, January 24, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the P.d.l. 03/4155 - Right of the Women Act |
| Message | Michele Scialoja: "Mr Marini, the question of the cost is really the last that I thounght and I mentioned, but I cannot deserve to mention also this aspect. In any manner I would talk of these person in the way that you interpreted my declaration. Absolutely not! In fact, the first thing that I talked about it was the possibility of the child to have a normal life. What I have to say to you? That I desidere for my child a life full of all the experience that the life can offer? A life with loves, friends, personal good and worse experience, a life that could allow to my son to have his sons, etc... a life complete and full! A life that a disease, a mental or a severely debilitating physical desease, could never offer. I think only to a son that have to ask to himself or to the others: "why I'm not like the other children?". What I have to respond to a similar question? Mr Marini, did you know that in my family I had an uncle with Down's syndrome? I remember the sadness of my grandmother, the prayers of my poor grand-grandmother to heal his nephew, I remember the sadness in my uncle, which in any way he understood its diversity, probably also its limitations and for which he was sad and sorrow and took refuge in a fantasy world, where he could get himself a girlfriend, a wife, children, could do all the jobs he wanted and where he was treated like everyone else. An you Mr Marini would tell me I have to be happy to give a world of failings and hardships of all kinds to my son? I have to accept to think to my son and to the day when he will ask me "why I'm not like the other children dad"? I really have to accept to regard the sad look of my son? Or I have to accept to bringing a child into the world just to let him try a short life of suffering? Have you any idea of the illness and of the deseases that could affect a child? Have you any idea of how many deseases, fortuntatly rare deseases, could affect a child and give him only a very short life, frequently a short life to pass close into an hospital or linked to machinary or constantly subjected to painful treatment? I thought to all these thing before to talk about cost! But we are into a Parliament and when we talk about something, we are obliged to talk about all the aspect of a matter and if you like or not, many family, even wealthy or middle-class families, have to face serious costs to pay for medication and care if they want try to go to meet experts maybe in some private clinic. And for what? Often only to prolong the suffering of their poor son. How many times have you hear the popular invocation, on occasion of the death of a person after a long illness "at least now he has stopped suffering"? So, why I have to give a broken life, or a life of suffering, or a limited life, or an hospital life or a life attached to a machine to my son? Why? If I can have the possibility to identify a serious desease on my son, why I would have not think to what kind of life waiting for him? Why I cannot make an act of mercy for him? Because avoid him a deaseased life it can only be an act of mercy! I want give a full life to my son, I want give to my son the possibility to realize himself as he want! The cost in effect is the last think that I made, but, as said, we are in a Parliament voting an important matter and we have to talk of all the aspect of a matter. Thank you" |
| Date | 12:01:08, January 25, 2017 CET | From | Partito Ambientalista Socialista Istalia | To | Debating the P.d.l. 03/4155 - Right of the Women Act |
| Message | It's clear that this Governement is unable to resolv any problem in our Country, and when a government is unefficient it has the unique solution: hit the weakest and hit the rights of the weakest. Citizens! your vote has gone to a coalition that does not know how to govern but he knows how to reduce your freedom. |
| Date | 12:16:33, January 25, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the P.d.l. 03/4155 - Right of the Women Act |
| Message | Michele Scialoja: "we joint the last declaration of our collegues of Verdi Istaliani. They have not answers for our citizens! They are not solutions! The Progressive wing of the Nation for long time showed a clear idea and a clear path on which bring the Nation. The right wing, this union of "Liberals" are nothing to do if not reduce the rights of our citizens because they have not idea of what to do! Fiscal revolution? Liberal Economy? These are the path for what? For the obscurantism! And it is simply unacceptable! Our citizens will make hear its voice! It's a promise!" |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 229 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 406 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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