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Bill: LPH-1,Removing the Death Penalty Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Party of Hutori
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 4159
Description[?]:
| Mr.Speaker, The Liberal Party Believes that Death Penalty is horrendous and must not be allowed in a nation as progressive as Hutori.Therefore We request all Members of the Senate in support of Banning Death Penalty all across the Nation.Yes,we do believe that people who have committed horrendous Crimes need to be punished strictly but not through Death Penalty or Torture Thank you, Henry Pearson,Liberal Party Leader and Senator For Axminster West |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is not applied, except for terrorism, treason and crimes against mankind.
Current: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Proposed: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:45:43, January 29, 2017 CET | From |  Hutori Socialists | To | Debating the LPH-1,Removing the Death Penalty Act |
| Message | "Mr Speaker, The Hutorian Socialist Party will definitely vote in favour of this bill because the death penalty is inherently wrong. Consider the following three arguments. It should not be the responsibility of the state to take the lives of individuals as a matter of justice as justice doesn't mean more deaths. There could be criminals who just narrowly escape conviction of a crime who are spared their life for a crime they actually did, while someone else could be sentenced to death after being convicted of a crime they never did. There are too many factors that might lead to an innocent person losing their life. And would it not be a greater punishment that this criminal has to live with the consequences of their actions while in prison, rather than being able to escape the guilt that they have caused? Contrary to perhaps common thought, those who would've been sentenced to the death penalty in a more authoritarian nation, but would instead have their lives spared here with life imprisonment as an alternative, do not take up much taxpayer money when you consider that this money is going towards true justice. If you value justice, vote FOR the Liberal's Removing the Death Penalty Act." - Fraser Zilberschlag (HSP-FA) Prime Minister of Hutori |
| Date | 15:00:26, January 29, 2017 CET | From | Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the LPH-1,Removing the Death Penalty Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker I'd like the Socialists to consider the following arguments then; is a criminal who committed Treason, an act of Terrorism or a Crime Against Humanity going to feel guilty for their crimes that without exception likely lead to death beyond merely our nation. They aren't going to "need to live" with their crimes they will accept it with a badge of honour. The argument that wrong people die in terms to the Death penalty, our government reserves the Death Penalty for only the most extreme of crimes; Terrorism, Crimes Against Humanity and Treason, Crimes that investigated by the HFPS and prosecuted by the Attorney General themselves. These are crimes that there is little if any wiggle room allowed before an investigation can even begin; there are NOT wrongful convictions for the three worst crimes in the nation. The amount of money spent on keeping these people alive may be comparatively small in terms of food and clothing, but that doesn't account for cost of the high security facilities they need to be kept in which includes the guards, their upkeep and salaries, the maintenence of those facilities and the need to keep these criminals under 24 hour observation. Compare all of that to the cost of a single lethal injection; there is no contest. The progressives may vote as they please but we will not be voting against our deterrent which I'm sure makes criminals pause before they Commit a crime; they may be content in taking a life rarely are they willing to give up their own. Michelle Griffin Senator for Bekenial Riverside Royalist Justice Critic |
| Date | 22:59:37, January 29, 2017 CET | From | Hutori Socialists | To | Debating the LPH-1,Removing the Death Penalty Act |
| Message | "Mr Speaker, Mrs Griffin fails to understand that while they may not feel guilt for their horrors they have committed upon their victim/s, they will be defeated at the very least that they can no longer live a proper life. While it is true that many cases likely result in the correct outcome, there are still opportunities that the convicted could be innocent and that further evidence could come out months or years after they have been convicted, triggering a follow-up court case releasing them from prison. These costs would already be necessary to detain prisoners in high-security facilities whom would not be subject to the death penalty currently, but may cause a significant threat to society. If a lifetime in prison isn't a deterrent for crime, I don't see how a criminal would think that the death penalty, being able to escape the consequences of their actions if they are indeed caught, could be worse." - Fraser Zilberschlag Prime Minister of Hutori |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 346 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 204 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 50 |
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