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Bill: P.d.l. 02/4160 - Secularity Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Alleanza Radicale - NCD
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 4161
Description[?]:
| Michele Scialoja, Leader of PSLI: "the right is always ready to give gift to the religious and to treat this organization as privileged orders of the society. Privileged for what reason? There are associations and orders that bring more and more usefull services to the Nation, without spread an invasive influence on the civil society and the politics. Istalia is a secular nation where the rules the state of law, not the beliefs of some or the immagination of other some. Thank you" |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Current: No religions are taxed.
Proposed: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: Public officials are not allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:41:58, February 03, 2017 CET | From | Partito dei Democratici Istaliani | To | Debating the P.d.l. 02/4160 - Secularity Act |
| Message | Vincenzo Marini, Leader of DI-U.o.L.: "This is the reason because I call the Center-Left parties "communists": with this law you restrict civil liberties on religion. Everyone has the right to follow any religion and with this proposal you will prohibit citizens to express their faith in liberty." |
| Date | 15:26:29, February 03, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the P.d.l. 02/4160 - Secularity Act |
| Message | Michele Scialoja, Leader of PSLI: "Mr Marini, call me again "communist" and I will bring you facing a judge for slander and defamation! This have nothing to do with the civil liberties: the "PUBLIC OFFICIALS" are servants of the state and as such they must make themselves neutral on every occasion and toward every citizen! Imagine you a Judge which comes in the Court with an ahmadi or Hosian symbol facing a case between two people of these two religion. Not only the part which belong to the other religion could be feel himself at disadvantage, but its lawyer could also use the religious symbol to attack the judge and its impartiality. There is a great difference between a citizens and someone at the service of and pay by the State. SECULARITY AND IMPARTIALITY! Nothing to do with the comunism! About the other article, what kind of lucrative activity and so of profits should have a religion? A religion should comfort the souls of our citizens and bring good and charity to the most disadvantaged! Why have lucrative activities? If they have lucrative activities and then it use the profits for charitative activities, there are no problems. But in other case, what they have to do? Priests and imams should perhaps gulp their flabby bellies? Or why a patriarch can have a luxury car with driver... rather... he can have of course, but why on these expense or why the profits that they had to buy the car and hire the drivers should not be taxed? But, given the fact that you insist so much in denoting us like "communist", well... would you like see the communism? The real communisl? Do you want see the State Atheism in place and your dear fat souls pastors be hunted like bandits? Do you want really see the opium of the people be eradicate to make take to our Nation the way of the only real true, the ractionality and the concrete proofs of the Science and of the Reason? Do you really want see the religious symbols burn in the middle of the squares while church and mosques are demolished and desecrated? I think no! So, stop to call us communists because if you do it, this means you never see and you don't know what is it the communism!" |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 257 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 378 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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