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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of May 2182
Details
Submitted by[?]: Independent Capitalist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2183
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
As per the Constitution, the Llywydd (President) chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Independent Capitalist Party
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Hammerian Capitalist Party
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Independent Capitalist Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Social Reform Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Independent Capitalist Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Hammerian Capitalist Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Hammerian Capitalist Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Independent Capitalist Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Hammerian Capitalist Party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Social Reform Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Social Reform Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Hammerian Capitalist Party
Article 14
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Article 15
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Current: A civilian police force is in place and the military is not allowed to play any part in it.
Proposed: The military acts as a de-facto police force, with powers of arrest.
Article 16
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in warfare for any reason.
Article 17
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the post office
Old value:: There is a nationalised post office. Private post office agencies are allowed to exist, and the services provided by them are not regulated.
Current: There is a nationalised post office. Private post office agencies are allowed to exist, and the services provided by them are not regulated.
Proposed: Only private post agencies exist, and the services they provide are unregulated.
Article 18
Proposal[?] to change Trade union strike ballots.
Old value:: Trade unions must by law hold a ballot of all members before going on strike, majority approval of those that vote is needed from its members.
Current: Trade unions must by law hold a ballot of all members before going on strike, a majority of all members, regardless of if they vote or not must approve the strike action.
Proposed: Trade unions are not required by law to hold a ballot before striking.
Article 19
Proposal[?] to change Waste disposal responsibility.
Old value:: Private companies are responsible for disposing of their own waste. The government disposes of residential waste.
Current: It is the responsibility of local governments to decide on waste disposal regulation.
Proposed: It is the responsibility of local governments to decide on waste disposal regulation.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:05:11, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2182 |
| Message | A pitty your non-working government will last so short but we did it for the good of the Alorian people... |
| Date | 23:12:21, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2182 |
| Message | A pity you can't accept your time is over. |
| Date | 23:16:23, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2182 |
| Message | You won by 6 seats because (1) you got someone to trick the voters by voting with us, (2) there were not enough bills. The AC has ways to make *pleanty* of bills to show the voters why we should be in power instead of an unworking government. If we suceed, we'll call early elections. Your government will last very short. You just can't admit that the AC will always outwit you. |
| Date | 23:26:18, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Capitalism Now! Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2182 |
| Message | How would it be an unworking goverment? |
| Date | 00:02:22, February 08, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2182 |
| Message | It wouldn't be. They just can't stand that fact that they'll be out of power. |
| Date | 01:16:24, February 08, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2182 |
| Message | Well, it is a fact that the last gov't other than the AC only had Memorare do any action whatsoever. We have historical basis. Btw, now that Drache is back, we will consider offering them cabinet spots. Unlike the anti-ACers who didn't have them in their cab't. |
| Date | 09:06:05, February 08, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2182 |
| Message | Except you excluded them from this cabinet proposal. |
| Date | 22:47:31, February 08, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2182 |
| Message | Because we knew they'd vote no. We were hoping one other person not in this bill would vote yes. |
| Date | 22:50:33, February 08, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2182 |
| Message | Plus, look how you still didn't add Drache to the cab't like you promised... |
| Date | 23:07:32, February 08, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2182 |
| Message | We didn't make any promises. As I recall, you were the one promising the LGDP two positions. |
| Date | 01:09:10, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2182 |
| Message | You promised the same on the nat'l msg board. And this cabinet was made BEFORE Drache returned... |
| Date | 04:14:40, February 09, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2182 |
| Message | "A pity you can't accept your time is over." Last time you took power you thought it was all over for us, too. Then we just came back stronger than ever. You cannot stop us, only make us stronger. |
| Date | 13:49:05, February 09, 2006 CET | From |  Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2182 |
| Message | Right... Is the good of Aloria in your plans? I somehow doubt it... |
| Date | 00:55:45, February 10, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 2182 |
| Message | Yes it is. Your cabinets accomplish nothing. Our cabinets have had long lists of accomplishments. I think a working government versus a non-working government is for the good of Aloria... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 267 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 279 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 54 |
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