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Bill: Reviving the artanian union
Details
Submitted by[?]: Kommunistische partei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 4167
Description[?]:
| The rebublic of Aloria has contacted our office to ask if Dirvik is interested in reviving the AU. The metzist kommunistische partei believes this is a good idea. We believe in reuniting the Artanian nations to become stronger and more cababel to face the problems of terra. I would even propose Dorvik taking the lead to revive the AU. If this bill is passed, the governement will agree commit to this and start the negotiatens with other AU nations to revive and restrengt the AU. Hans füller Chairman of the MKP |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:26:24, February 12, 2017 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | The Alorian Presidency has contacted us as well. Unfortunately we have different oppinion on this issue. Any kind of federalization or transfer of power to the artanian institution is out of question for us. The Artanian Union should be the main stimulator for economic growth as well for the participants and non-participants. I personally doubt that the AU would face the problems of Terra. In fact its economic regulations may cause harm to the countries' economies. "Reunification" of Artania is pointless and would bring no good. AU in the shape as it is now is the best for our economy and we would even suggest further liberalization of its economic policies. Emilly Wagner, leader of the KU. |
| Date | 23:06:53, February 12, 2017 CET | From | Dorvische Ordenspartei | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | My party actually agrees with the KU on this matter. We do not support reviving the AU. Alina Maurer Die Piraten |
| Date | 23:14:38, February 12, 2017 CET | From | Vorwärts Republik! | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We believe riviving the AU will be a great thing for Dorvik, and we cannot agree with our colleagues that there would be any large transfer of power from national parliaments. We support reviving the AU |
| Date | 23:29:55, February 12, 2017 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, for couple of decades now, the Artanian Union and its institutions has been in deep institutional crisis. The Artanian Union has no real point apart from spending money of its members. I recommend reading the treaty itself. II.b"The Director-General (...) earns a salary of 135,000 LOD a year", II.c"The Artanian Representative (...) earn a base salary of 100,000 LOD a term." ladies and gentlemen this is just debauchery which needs to stop and it needs to stop as soon as possible. Artanian Union was was brought to life for its own benefit and it does not benefit our nation or any other nation in it in any way. In fact, I believe that the best thing we can do now is to step away, see how the AU falls down and dies on its own. It is to corrupt to revive it. We need an alternative. Not a suprantional organization, we need a strong inter-governmental partnership not limited by continent's borders. Emilly Wagner, KU leader. |
| Date | 01:15:24, February 13, 2017 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | OOC: In game it could be fun, but in character my party would be staunchly opposed. |
| Date | 03:05:10, February 13, 2017 CET | From | Kommunistische partei | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | We don't think that it is corrupt, we need to revive it on our terms, in democracy. We need to unite to become stronger and more capabel to handle situations. To become a stronger member on internationa stage. Hans füller, Chairman of the MKP |
| Date | 10:24:20, February 13, 2017 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | In what way is it more capable to handle situations? An independent dorvish government will handle every situation best and any supranaitional organization is not necessary. We do not believe in Artanian Unity there is no such thing as Artanian identity therefore we oppose any kind of Artanian Unification and anything more than economic CO-OPERATION. Emilly Wagner. KU leader. |
| Date | 13:21:10, February 13, 2017 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We fully agree with our colleague from the KU, Emily Wagner. An entity like the AU could easily become a bureaucratic super state. Ronald Rieger, FD Leader |
| Date | 22:08:52, February 13, 2017 CET | From | DEMOS! FDZ | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | We stand united with our president, and oppose this. Victoria Fiete, Demos!FDZ! |
| Date | 00:55:05, February 14, 2017 CET | From | Kommunistische partei | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | Why can i ask you ms Fiete? Hans füller, Chairman of MKP |
| Date | 13:02:26, February 14, 2017 CET | From | Vorwärts Republik! | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We will continue to push for the revival and Dorvik's entry into the Union, we will become the party of the Union. Klaus Wu, Radical Party Spokesperson for Foreign Affairs |
| Date | 13:11:30, February 14, 2017 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I would like to remid Mr. Wu, that we alreade are a member of the Artanian Union. What we need is a comprehensive treaty reform. But our party will do everything it can to limit the AU competences to keep it a professional, economic forum which will allow for stable economic growth without interfering with nations's interests. Emilly Wagner, KU leader. |
| Date | 15:33:03, February 14, 2017 CET | From | Vorwärts Republik! | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | Mr Speaker, I'd like to apologise for my mistake, what I meant is that we will push for Dorvik's greater involvement in the Union and creating an international community we can be proud of. Klaus Wu |
| Date | 16:47:36, February 14, 2017 CET | From | Kommunistische partei | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | The MMP think the same as the RP on this matter and we should push Dorvik in an more important role in the AU. United we stand strong, divided we will fall. The isolation and protectionistic policies of the KU and the FD do not work, history has shown this. Hans füller, Chairman of the MKP |
| Date | 17:06:37, February 14, 2017 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, well it works, we have a stable growth of the GDP and the employment. And that's thanks to ourselves, thanks to hard work of our people and their will. They do not need Artanian Union. Our country does not need that. Emilly Wagner, KU leader. |
| Date | 17:10:18, February 14, 2017 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Just as the Radical Party wants to be the face of greater AU integration, we shall be the face of full withdrawal from the AU! Ronald Rieger, Outgoing FD Leader |
| Date | 17:27:40, February 14, 2017 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, the numbers speaks for themselves, the Artanian Union since its beginning has been a financial failure. Assets accumulated in the joint Artanian budget and the salaries of the representatives with no legal power and abilities are a waste of time, money and infrastructure. Although our party would like to keep Artanian Union as a economic forum, due to the fact that a lot of our members supported AU in the past, we will support withdrawal from the AU if there's a need. Emilly Wagner, leader of the KU. |
| Date | 18:44:17, February 14, 2017 CET | From | Liberalen Partei | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | I would like to remind you the GDP was growing during the Spener days too, and the surplus was larger. The AU is a great thing and we should at least try it. Nick Hochmeister, LAP Leader |
| Date | 18:51:47, February 14, 2017 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | Mr. Hochmeister, are you talking about the president? Well, I'll send you a piece of paper later... it's called the Constitution and after reading it you will know that the president has nothing to do with country's economy. The GDP has been growing constantly for couple of decades now but I assure you that it is not thanks to AU. It's thanks to our people. I am not trying to glorify my party or discredit another. I am discrediting the Artanian Union because it is useless and wasteful. It is not a great thing and it should be dismantled. Emilly Wagner, KU. |
| Date | 21:46:49, February 14, 2017 CET | From | Kommunistische partei | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | To become a singel state who has no ally's? We would be swiped of the planet if one nation try's to concuer dorvik,we need the AU economical wise and defense wise! Hans Füller, Chairman of the MKP |
| Date | 21:54:31, February 14, 2017 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, recently the government of Aloria wanted to delcare war on us, this is not the kind of action which improve our relations with them and certainly discredits them as potential partner in the future. Here is the evidence (http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=505415). President Grossberg had issued a warning to the alorian ruling party. We will not be swept, we will not be conquered. We are one ofthe most technologically and economically advanced countries in the Terra. We do not rely on the Artanian Union, the Artanian Union relies on us. We have numerous allies which are not part of Artanian Union and we do not need it to build bilateral relations. Emilly Wagner, KU. |
| Date | 12:54:14, February 15, 2017 CET | From | Kommunistische partei | To | Debating the Reviving the artanian union |
| Message | For the moment we will freeze our support for the AU. We will not go in the same uion with fascists like aloria, who do not believe in democraty and human rights. We will reconsider when aoria has changed governement. Hans füller, Chairman of the MKP |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 36 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 273 | |||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 91 |
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