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Bill: SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Patriotic Party of Baltusia
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4172
Description[?]:
| Chief Arbitrator: The Honourable Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Graham Montpellier [Patriotic Party) State Prosecutor : Meadows Meami-Burris (PLCA) Defendant: Sally Smith, Graham Burgmuller, Stephen Hernandez and Jesus Matias Wright (all BRP) Charges: Sally Smith: 1 Government abuse of power (minimum sentence, 500 BLD and 24 hours of community service. Maximum of 1000 BLD fine and 72 hours of community service.) 2 Corruption (minimum sentence 5 years, parole in 3. maximum sentence 20 years, parole in 10) Graham Burgmuller, Stephen Hernandez and Jesus Matias Wright: 3 Corruption (minimum sentence 5 years, parole in 3. maximum sentence 20 years, parole in 10) 4 Unethical treatement of animals in deliberate breach of national regulations (minimum sentence 3 years, parole in 1. Maximum sentence 13 years, parole in 6). 5 Illegal medical procedure (minimum sentence 1 years, parole in 6 months. maximum sentence 5 years, parole in 3) 6 Dropped 7 Illegal medicine development (minimum sentence 1 years, parole in 6 months. maximum sentence 5 years, parole in 3) 8 Illegal patent (minimum sentence 1 years, parole in 6 months. maximum sentence 5 years, parole in 3) 9 Cartel Organisation (minimum sentence 6 years, parole in 4. maximum sentence 17 years, parole in 12) 10 Illegal exploitation of animals (minimum sentence 2 years, parole in 1 year. maximum sentence 6 years, parole in 4) 11 Taking part in Mafia activities (minimum sentence 6 years, parole in 4. maximum sentence 17 years, parole in 12) Procedure: 1.) The Prosecutor will put forth his evidence for the arbitrator to review. 1.1) The Defendant will have an opportunity to plead guilty. 1.2) The judge will decide whether jury trial or up to three judge hearing is required. 2.) The Prosecutor will make his case. 2.1) As part of the Prosecution's case they may call witnesses and cross examine them. 2.2) The Defendant may cross examine the witnesses called by the prosecution. 2.3) The Defendant will have to opportunity to scrutinize the case of the Prosecutor. 2.4) The Defendant may call witnesses and cross examine them (OOC: Again, please specify the party) 3.) The Prosecutor will have an opportunity to respond to the scrutiny of his case. 4.) This shall repeat until the Prosecutor rests his case. 5.) Jury will be asked to return a verdict; if no jury chief justice will record the verdict of the panel of judges. 6.) They may decide that the defendant is guilty and which point the arbitrator will pass sentence. They may decide in favour of innocence, in which case the defendants are to be released. Rules and Etiquette: - The arbitrator must be addressed as "your Honour". |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:37:32, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Patriotic Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | *** This trial will commence in November 4170 (approx 4-5pm GMT) *** For reference, the plea and directions hearing can be found here: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=506415 |
| Date | 17:40:01, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Patriotic Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | *** Bangs gavel **** "Court is now in session. Before we proceed with the trial of State v Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals I ask if either counsels have any developments they need to make me aware of that have arisen since we were last in court?' Graham Montpellier Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. |
| Date | 18:03:08, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your Honour, The defense counsel are ready to proceed with the trial as no developments have occurred on this side of the court. Thank you. Mary Jones Defence Attorney |
| Date | 18:09:20, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Patriotic Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Thank you, Defence Attorney Jones. State Prosecutor Meami-Burris, It is over to you. If you have no developments to report then please proceed by putting forward your evidence for review... Graham Montpellier Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. |
| Date | 18:31:07, February 23, 2017 CET | From | United Democratic Party - Syndicalists | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your Honour State prosecutor Meami-Burris cannot make it due to a serious family emergency so I deputy-state prosecutor Mark Kirdurn will be temporarily taking over Thank you I will no proceed with the evidence Mark Kirdurn prosecutor |
| Date | 18:35:05, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC : I'm there. be CALM and wait three seconds |
| Date | 18:36:02, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC: Ok, in character just like rush in or something and say that there was a problem |
| Date | 18:37:02, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your Honour Sorry for the delay, We were attacked by the Balstulscianno, 2 of the police members that were supposed protect me have died. such things can happen We present our evidence. We hope to prove that Sally Smith governor or Athosia committed abuse Abuse of power and that Burgmuller Pharma directors engaged in illegal Medical procedures. We also believe the accused engaged in corruption, tried to establish a cartel and fund mafia's activities We will start by charges 1, 4, 5, 7 Exhibit 1 : constitution of Baltusia, it state the procedure which may permit local government to have powers. http://classic.particracy.net/viewconstitution.php?nationid=22 Exhibit 2 :The State Symbols and Regional Governors Act of 4152 http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=501255 This law state that governers are responsables for pieces legislation assigned to local governments, article 2 Exhibit 3 : "http://classic.particracy.net/viewvariables.php?nationid=22 Baltusia laws. this demonstration that local government responsabilities and power are 1 Providing shelters for civilian defense. 2 Organisation of a local police 3 Organisation of pre-school education system 4 Organisation of public libraries 5 registration of domestic animals 6 organisation of waste disposal 7 Organisation of fire service The law also proves that - Animals may not be used in any medical researches - Animals may not be used in any cosmetics products - Animals experimentation are illegal. The Law also proves that wild animals ownership is illegal. The law also state that any candidates may not receive donation. Exhibit 4 : the Executive order, that allow burgmuller pharma to use animals experimentation, to test a drug, know as X3. this prove that Burgmuller Pharma were engaged in developpement of a medical, with animal testing which is illegal, The governor signature prove that she had sign the executive order. Exhibit 5 : Animals seized by public worker of the minister of science and technology who were able to enter the law and seize the animals. Final Count : 155 Rabbits, 78 died of malnutrition. 44 Guinea pig, 27 deceased, and 1 dog, healthy. I'm not sure how it ended it on the count, must be a fonctionnary reflex. This show that the treatment of animals by Burgmuller pharma, was unethical. I also make remark, that 155 Rabbits and 44 Guinea pig, is greater then 6 and 2 told by Sally Smith. the animals were found at Costa De Oro, Athosia. For charges 10 and 11 Exhibit 6 : Interview by a Jeanne Lambert-Leloup with Enrique Yepes Enrique Yepes was originally arrested on an other affairs for which he plead guilty, saying he would be safer in jail then outside. He was found with money on a Ranch that belong to the Balstulscianno mafia. In his interview, he state working for Burgmuller pharmaceutical, more precisely. When asked the names of his bosses, he said : "Graham Burgmuller, Stephen Hernandez, Jesus Matias Wright", who are the accusee. he state that he help the compagny to get its hand on Rabbits, from Balstulscianno and Guinea Pigs, from Akorivoand that approvisionnement would be continuous if the compagny paid 5% to the mafias for their works. If the defence wants, they can summon Enrique Yepes (Witness rp by PLCA) to interrogate him. We also remark that these very of few were registered, unless we were given the wrong record. Exhibit 7 : Your honour, this is a check, worth 321 547 823 LOD, that in possession of Enrique Yepes when he was arrest and was signed by Graham Burgmuller, it proves that Yepes was paid by Burgmuller pharmaceuticals, and he could used that money to paid the mafia, Yepes was supposed to be link between mafioso and Burgmuller Pharma Exhibit 8 : A document showing a patent registration, signed by the former minister of science and technology, Louis Low,in November 4619, when Audrey-Sophie Waters-Laflamme has already his post as minister of science and technology. And the minister said ther he never even had the chance to reject the patent, since it was not presented to him. We believe this make it a fake document, since Louis Low was no longer minister, so had no right to sign the document. For Charges 2 and 3 Exhibit 9 : Security video seized from the office of Athosia governor, it show that five person were able to meet with the governor in November 4169. Exhibit 10 : Interview of Paul Price, who is pictured in the above video. In exchanged for only chargeing community work, (something your honour could change), Paul Price has agreed to speak about the meeting between Governor Sally Smith and Graham Burgmuller, Stephen Hernandez, Jesus Matias Wright, as well as him and an other individual we do not the name, nor the identity. he told us that during the discussion, Burgmuller said he give 723 543 867 LOD to a Wantuni Compagny registered in stock's exchanges and that this compagny would deposate the money in an account in the Freedom Bank of Kalopia/Wantuni, A detective we send there, Sherry Cepillo-Sanders, said she was able to find the bank, as well an account with 752 243 843 LOD, number 8365938663285, registered under the name of Sally Smith. The Bank told them that the money was deposed by a Wantuni Compagny, with a letter signed by Graham Burgmuller. The bank did not agreed to send us back the money, but they changed the account owner to Sherry Cepillo-Sanders. Paul price swear he saw partially the number of the account, while he was in the room, with the accusee, the unknown person and governor Sally Smith. These numbers were 8365938, they matche the account found by our detective. Finally. In his interview, Paul Price said that Stephen Hernandez has decided present him the price of the product, 1300 BLD and told that the president told him : (We are gonna the sole productor and the sole distributor, so who cares about fair prices. If you want to save lives, then get off my face and join the Red Cross. ) We give permission to the defence to interview Paul Price. Exhibit 11 : Income taxes by Paul Price, they shown Mr Paul price has paid 38% of his income in taxes, and that he has an income of 143 723 BLD. The name of the employer is Jesus Matias Wright. We believe this prove that Paul was an employee of Burgmuller pharmaceutical. Your honour, we believe this state all the evidence we wished to present to the jury. Meadow Meami-Burris. State prosecutor. |
| Date | 18:43:46, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC: This RP is totally unfair- you are saying Burgmuller signed a check for 321,547,823 that is totally unfair, that is complete control of my character. Drop that evidence or I will pull out of this RP. |
| Date | 18:45:03, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC: I only want you to pull Exhibit 7 and then we can move on |
| Date | 18:58:21, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Patriotic Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC: I suggest we suspend this RP and all associated until everyone has the chance to have a talk about it and what or what isn't credible/reasonable. IC: I am not feeling too well so if you will excuse me... Court adjourned. **bangs gavel ** Judge Montpelier |
| Date | 19:01:11, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC: Personally if we just out of character say that exhibition 7 is void and just in character say that the exhibit 7 was 'problematic and is now void' and we can move forward? |
| Date | 19:04:25, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC : who said he sign that ? Maybe the signature do not match ? Maybe ths signature is fake. maybe the criminal wrote it. |
| Date | 19:10:24, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC : yeah it is actually illogical for the check to be signed, given the guys is supposed link with mafia. he should have be given cash money... |
| Date | 19:18:06, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC : I made an Offer, I don't have lot of time. |
| Date | 19:20:13, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC: Ok the offer is fine if it is in cash, lets go ahead with it then. |
| Date | 20:10:59, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Patriotic Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | ** bangs gavel ** Court in session. OK so did I hear right exhibit 7 is actually cash? Judge Montpelier |
| Date | 20:13:08, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your Honour, Yes, exhibit 7 is supposedly cash, and the prosecution made an error with regards to the cheque and cash. The defense are ready though, Your Honour. Mary Jones Defence Attorney |
| Date | 20:20:01, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Patriotic Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Very well. I have reviewed the evidence and would be happy to proceed with a jury trial. Defendants stand please.... how do you plead to the charges you face? (ooc as long as it is clear format I don't mind how you display it). Judge Montpelier |
| Date | 20:23:43, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your Honour, Just quickly prior to this, I assume the jury trial is solely for charges 2, 3 and 9, 11 as per the precedent set in the plea hearing. All other charges will be decided by Your Honour? Is that correct? Thank you. Mary Jones Defence Attorney |
| Date | 20:25:46, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Patriotic Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Correct Attorney Jones. Judge Montpelier |
| Date | 20:27:19, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your Honour, Thank you. Mary Jones Defence Attorney |
| Date | 20:27:41, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC : there is still no way to modifie a message once post . exhibit been modified to : Exhibit 7 : here we have 321 547 823 LOD, that were possession of Enrique Yepes when he was arrest, it proves that Yepes was paid, and he could used that money to paid the mafia, When he was asked who paid him, he identified Graham Burgmuller as his employer please, regard old as void. |
| Date | 20:29:28, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Charge 1: NG Charge 2: NG Sally Smith Defendant Charge 3: NG,NG,NG Charge 4: NG,NG,NG Charge 5: NG,NG,NG Charged 6: Dropped Charge 7: NG,NG,NG Charge 8: NG,NG,NG Charge 9: NG,NG,NG Charge 10: NG,NG,NG Charge 11: NG,NG,NG 3 Burgmuller Defendants |
| Date | 20:33:42, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC : will be back at 4pm, or little later. |
| Date | 20:34:44, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | ooc: No problem, what is that in terms of GB time? |
| Date | 20:48:46, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Patriotic Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Very well we will proceed with the trial. The jury is now sworn in. The prosecution may proceed with their case. Judge Montpelier ooc (I will leave this open so you can post while I am offline please post your case and call and question witnesses). |
| Date | 21:35:18, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC : KeyWord :STATECASEPROOF1111.. this could be a long treat. < the proof will presented here and the keyword is a way for parties for quickly refer to material presented by the state prosecutor IC : Your Honour We present our evidence. We hope to prove that Sally Smith governor or Athosia committed abuse Abuse of power and that Burgmuller Pharma directors engaged in illegal Medical procedures. We also believe the accused engaged in corruption, tried to establish a cartel and fund mafia's activities We will start by charges 1, 4, 5, 7 Exhibit 1 : constitution of Baltusia, it state the procedure which may permit local government to have powers. http://classic.particracy.net/viewconstitution.php?nationid=22 Exhibit 2 :The State Symbols and Regional Governors Act of 4152 http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=501255 This law state that governers are responsables for pieces legislation assigned to local governments, article 2 Exhibit 3 : "http://classic.particracy.net/viewvariables.php?nationid=22 Baltusia laws. this demonstration that local government responsabilities and power are 1 Providing shelters for civilian defense. 2 Organisation of a local police 3 Organisation of pre-school education system 4 Organisation of public libraries 5 registration of domestic animals 6 organisation of waste disposal 7 Organisation of fire service The law also proves that - Animals may not be used in any medical researches - Animals may not be used in any cosmetics products - Animals experimentation are illegal. The Law also proves that wild animals ownership is illegal. The law also state that any candidates may not receive donation. Exhibit 4 : the Executive order, that allow burgmuller pharma to use animals experimentation, to test a drug, know as X3. this prove that Burgmuller Pharma were engaged in developpement of a medical, with animal testing which is illegal, The governor signature prove that she had sign the executive order. Exhibit 5 : Animals seized by public worker of the minister of science and technology who were able to enter the law and seize the animals. Final Count : 155 Rabbits, 78 died of malnutrition. 44 Guinea pig, 27 deceased, and 1 dog, healthy. I'm not sure how it ended it on the count, must be a fonctionnary reflex. This show that the treatment of animals by Burgmuller pharma, was unethical. I also make remark, that 155 Rabbits and 44 Guinea pig, is greater then 6 and 2 told by Sally Smith. the animals were found at Costa De Oro, Athosia. For charges 10 and 11 Exhibit 6 : Interview by a Jeanne Lambert-Leloup with Enrique Yepes Enrique Yepes was originally arrested on an other affairs for which he plead guilty, saying he would be safer in jail then outside. He was found with money on a Ranch that belong to the Balstulscianno mafia. In his interview, he state working for Burgmuller pharmaceutical, more precisely. When asked the names of his bosses, he said : "Graham Burgmuller, Stephen Hernandez, Jesus Matias Wright", who are the accusee. he state that he help the compagny to get its hand on Rabbits, from Balstulscianno and Guinea Pigs, from Akorivoand that approvisionnement would be continuous if the compagny paid 5% to the mafias for their works. If the defence wants, they can summon Enrique Yepes (Witness rp by PLCA) to interrogate him. We also remark that these very of few were registered, unless we were given the wrong record. Exhibit 7 : here we have 321 547 823 LOD, that were possession of Enrique Yepes when he was arrest, it proves that Yepes was paid, and he could used that money to paid the mafia, When he was asked who paid him, he identified Graham Burgmuller as his employer. This is probably the reason why we were attacked. Exhibit 8 : A document showing a patent registration, signed by the former minister of science and technology, Louis Low,in November 4619, when Audrey-Sophie Waters-Laflamme has already his post as minister of science and technology. And the minister said ther he never even had the chance to reject the patent, since it was not presented to him. We believe this make it a fake document, since Louis Low was no longer minister, so had no right to sign the document. We even believe that he did not signed the document. For Charges 2 and 3 Exhibit 9 : Security video seized from the office of Athosia governor, it show that five person were able to meet with the governor in November 4169. Exhibit 10 : Interview of Paul Price, who is pictured in the above video. In exchanged for only chargeing community work, (something your honour could change), Paul Price has agreed to speak about the meeting between Governor Sally Smith and Graham Burgmuller, Stephen Hernandez, Jesus Matias Wright, as well as him and an other individual we do not the name, nor the identity. he told us that during the discussion, Burgmuller said he give 723 543 867 LOD to a Wantuni Compagny registered in stock's exchanges and that this compagny would deposate the money in an account in the Freedom Bank of Kalopia/Wantuni, A detective we send there, Sherry Cepillo-Sanders, said she was able to find the bank, as well an account with 752 243 843 LOD, number 8365938663285, registered under the name of Sally Smith. The Bank told them that the money was deposed by a Wantuni Compagny, with a letter signed by Graham Burgmuller. The bank did not agreed to send us back the money, but they changed the account owner to Sherry Cepillo-Sanders. Paul price swear he saw partially the number of the account, while he was in the room, with the accusee, the unknown person and governor Sally Smith. These numbers were 8365938, they matche the account found by our detective. Finally. In his interview, Paul Price said that Stephen Hernandez has decided present him the price of the product, 1300 BLD and told that the president told him : (We are gonna the sole productor and the sole distributor, so who cares about fair prices. If you want to save lives, then get off my face and join the Red Cross. ) We give permission to the defence to interview Paul Price. Exhibit 11 : Income taxes by Paul Price, they shown Mr Paul price has paid 38% of his income in taxes, and that he has an income of 143 723 BLD. The name of the employer is Jesus Matias Wright. We believe this prove that Paul was an employee of Burgmuller pharmaceutical. Your honour, we believe this state all the evidence we wished to present to the jury. If the defense wish to interrogate etheir Mr Yepes or Mr Price, they should demand it soon, Mr. Yepes as asked to reconducted to a jail, as soon as his presence is no longer needed. Meadow Meami-Burris. State prosecutor. |
| Date | 21:37:33, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your honor, If the defence as no objection, we shall summon Mr. Price to the court. Meadow Meami-Burris. State prosecutor. |
| Date | 22:37:18, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your Honour, We have no objection to Mr Price being summoned, we have questions for him. OOC: On the consderation that stuntmonkey is offline- I suppose we could just start the witness questioning. Mary Jones Defence Attorney |
| Date | 23:26:57, February 23, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your Honour, we have summond Paul Price to the Court. M MB : Mr Price present yourselves. P P : I am Paul Price, formerly associate at Burgmuller Pharmaceutical, I was responsable of public relations M MB : The image we saw in court, that video, is that you P P : Yes M MB : and who are the other persons entering the governor's office P P : Burgmuller, Hernendez, Mathias Wright and Zed, that what we call the other guy, I don't know him. M MB : and you say they have given money to the governor P P : Non-officially of course, I brief the account on a paper that was handled to the governor and the President once said that : Once the governor will get her rewards, they will able to proceed with their phase. M MB : Is true the compagny own more animals then registered< P P : Yes, although, I don't know why these is a dog among your papers, must been a stray dog. M MB : Apparently, the president would have told that they don't want to save lifes. P P : Exactly, these are his words. We are gonna the sole productor and the sole distributor, so who cares about fair prices. If you want to save lives, then get off my face and join the Red Cross M MB : Why were you engaged by the compagny P P : I was told they needed someone to handle public relation and the public image of the compagny M MB : are the current Allegations, actually normal activities for the compagny. P P : only since animals experimentation where outlawed. M MB : Do you know about Enrique Yepes ? P P : Officially no, but personnally I know that guy and I hate him. M MB : have you ever got in contact with someone from Evil Spy Agency P P : they approach me and offered a me generous salary, but I refuse M MB : Mr. Price, you are aware, that if you are revealed to be a spy, it will proof that you have lied to a court and that is a criminal offense. P P : I swear, It is the truth, I'm not spy. M MB : do you swear you have told the truth and only the truth. P P : Yes I do. M MB : your honour, the defence may counter interrogate the Witness, your turn Attorney Jones. Meadow Meami-Burris. State prosecutor. |
| Date | 00:11:42, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Mr Price, you met with Governor Smith and other Senior Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals individuals at the governors office. Now, we have no evidence of what was discussed in that meeting. My clients say that what was discussed was the potential for animal testing on a new product, known as X3. Did you discuss animal testing on X3 Mr Price? Mary Jones Defence Attorney |
| Date | 01:06:37, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Well, that is a certain truth, that we talked about X3, and about testing the product on animals, hoverer, it was only that, I would not be present. Mr Burgmuller asked me to be present and to reassure the governor, that no one is going to arrest her and that no one were going to find out. Which what I did. I told her : The police is incapable to catch a single vampire, and even if they catch, there is no way they are going to proves this. But then I saw Burgmuller offering compensation for the trouble and I got caught. Paul Price. |
| Date | 01:44:48, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Mr Price, I would like to clarify something. Are you accusing Mr Graham Burgmuller and Sally Smith of doing the following- Burgmuller would pay Smith somewhere in the region of 700,000,000 LOD via the Wutani banking scheme in order for her executive order to approve animal testing on X3? Or is there another reasons which Miss Smirh was supposedly paid this large sum of money? |
| Date | 02:01:42, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Yes, I am. I saw it. Mr Burgmuller as ask to be, if i was certain that the money would not linked to the compagny, And when I ask him, what money, he said : Her reward, 700 000 000 LOD. Then he money came back during the discussion, as compensation for the risks she would take. But honestly, I failed to see why the governor who would be paid such as large of sum. it is so grotesque, there is no way such a transfer would not raise questions.. Paul Price |
| Date | 12:43:25, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Patriotic Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | ooc guys, due to work commitments I am travelling now for a few days and Internet is intermittent, so I suggest you carry on with this as far as you can and I will jump in with verdict asap. Cheers. |
| Date | 18:24:58, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | So you are saying Governor Smith was paid 700 000 000 LOD as a reward by Mr Burgmuller for signing the executive order? Mary Jones |
| Date | 18:29:14, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | More then 700 000 000 LOD, you honour. This is what I am saying. Paul Price |
| Date | 19:01:24, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | With that established- you say that you saw the bank account details of Sally Smith. Can you recall the numbers you say and where you saw them? Mary Jones |
| Date | 19:12:00, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | I saw them on a paper handed by Burgmuller to the governor. The number, it was, 8365927. No, it was 8365938.... Wait, there more, but I did not saw the last numbers. I can't recall the last numbers... Paul Price |
| Date | 19:17:24, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Mr Price, you recall the first numbers as 8365938. I have contacted the bank and those first 7 numbers were used in all bank accounts of Freedom Bank of Kalopia/Wantuni registered between November 4168 and June 4169. Governor Sally Smith had an account with that bank in the number of 836593866328. If you did not see the last 5 numbers, then how can you be certain it went into Miss Smith's specific bank account? |
| Date | 19:44:49, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | I just saw those numbers, I did not knew that Smith last numbers were 663285. I did not knew that these numbers were used for all accounts registered between a certain interval in times. I only told that to the detective and she went there on her own. I was not in the best position to see everything. Paul Price |
| Date | 20:13:27, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Mr Price, if you had a conversation with Mr Burgmuller, Governor Smith, Mr Hernandez and others, and a discussion regarding payment of over 700 000 000 BLD from Graham Burgmuller to Governer Smith in order to sign an executive order, and this would be paid by the money being given to a company in Wutani and then paid by them into Miss Smith's account at Freedom Bank of Kalopia/Wantuni, then how do you explain this? *Paper handed to all in court* Freedom Bank of Wantuni Account Number: 836593866328 Account Type: Traditional Savings account Account opened: December 4168 Account Holder: Mrs Sally Smith Account Holder Nation: Baltusia Bank Statement: 3 December 68 (Opened)- Deposit of 500 000 000 LOD 17 January 69- Deposit of 100 500 000 LOD | TOTAL= 600 500 000 6 March 69- Deposit of 50 000 000 LOD | TOTAL= 650 500 000 15 May 69- Deposit of 1 743 843 LOD | TOTAL= 652 243 27 August 69- Deposit of 100 000 000 LOD | 752 243 843 LOD 5 May 70- ACCOUNT SUSPENDED DUE TO CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, NOW IN THE NAME OF S. CEPILLO-SANDERS. Now, if you all met at November 4169, then this 700 000 000 LOD was not discussed at the meeting because 752 243 843 LOD was already in the bank prior to the meeting. How do you explain yourself Mr Price? Mary Jones Defence Attorney |
| Date | 20:27:20, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Miss Jones, I assure you, that Burgmuller told prior to the meeting, that the governor reward was already given. the only thing left was to handle her the account. He handled the paper, with the account number on it. I'll admit not being entirely honest, I though I could just flee to Wantumi and take the money for myself, if I presented myself as a detective. Wantumi has no police force and the bank can't complain that its dirty where stolen from them. But now, I believe Cepillo-Sanders just took the money Paul Price Objection your honour, we demand copy of this document, so we can compare it to our own document. We did not receive from the banks that the account was suspended, But we would not be surprised, we,ll try to contact the bank under a new name and see if we receive different info. Meadow Meami-Burris. State prosecutor. OOC : 8365938663285 |
| Date | 20:39:28, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | ooc: That is the number I meant to type sorry |
| Date | 20:44:23, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | WAIT YOU PRETENDED TO BE CEPILLO-SANDERS AND CHANGED THE BANK ACCOUNT INTO YOUR HANDS?! For clarification, when account changes hands for a criminal investigation it says it is suspended, however, the detective can take money out. *Court Clark hands paper to the The state prosecutor* It is only suspended for use by Miss Smith and it is now in the hands of Cepillo-Sanders. Mr Price, ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT YOU POSED AS A DETECTIVE TO STEAL THE MONEY because you knew Miss Smith had a lot of money in her bank account in Watuni? Mary Jones Defense Attorney |
| Date | 20:58:55, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Please calm Miss jones, crying is bad for your health. Wen have submitted two demand to the bank on that, and Miss Cepillo-Sanders has told us that she will get the money in less then 3 days here is demand 1 We pose as Sherry Cepillo-Sanders Freedom Bank of Wantuni Account Number: 836593866328 Account Type: Traditional Savings account Account opened: December 4169 Account Holder: Mrs Sherry Cepillo-Sanders Account Holder Nation: Baltusia Bank Statement: 27 August 69- Deposit of 752 243 843 LOD | 752 243 843 LOD Demand 2, we pose as citizen of Lodamun Freedom Bank of Wantuni Account Number: 836593866328 Account Type: Corporative account Account opened: December 4167 Account Holder: Mrs Sally Smith Account Holder Nation: Lodamun Bank Statement: 3 December 68 (Opened)- Deposit of 500 000 000 LOD 17 January 69- Deposit of 100 500 000 LOD | TOTAL= 600 500 000 6 March 69- Deposit of 50 000 000 LOD | TOTAL= 650 500 000 15 May 69- Deposit of 1 743 843 LOD | TOTAL= 652 243 27 August 69- Deposit of 100 000 000 LOD | 752 243 843 LOD .... And when we ask for information, passing for Mary jones, we receive the same info as written on the papers. Your Honour, infomation from the freedoom bank of Wantumi must be handle with care. We share the insecurity of the defense and believe hat Paul Price could have taken advantage of that information to etheir pass as a detective or as Sally Smith herself and walk away with the money. We had A charge, thievery, on the name of Paul Price. we ask for a plea. |
| Date | 21:00:44, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC : above is Meadow Meimi-Burris... Guilty, I never intended to say I'm Cepillo-Sander or Smith, I was just going to present myself as a detective and ask for the money, and you see, how easy it will. I will plead guilty. Paul Price |
| Date | 22:10:31, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | As Mr Price will be tried on a separate day, we should leave his plea's etc. for just now. But Mr Price, there is no evidence that a lump sum of 700 000 000 LOD was paid into that account, and certainly Miss Smith personally deposited all of her money, this was confirmed by the bank. So, if Miss Smith deposited all of her moeny personally, this is approved by the bank- then you must be lying about the 700 000 000 LOD paid by Burgmuller to Smith? If you are lying then surely all corruption charges should be dropped. Mary Jones |
| Date | 22:22:20, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | NO, I am saying that the account was handled to Smith, but the money was certainly deposite in that account before that. Burgmuller told me that the reward was ready before the meeting. I am not lying. I did not say we give her the money in one shot, I said we gave her the account number and the name of the bank. Paul Price |
| Date | 22:30:42, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your honour, we have proven that the bank has a policy to tell its client what they want to hear. When we posed as a citizen of lodamun seeking information, they have told us the account was in name of Sally smith and there one single deposite, but when we pose as Sherry Cepillo-Sanders, they say the account belong to her and there was many desposite. plus, Miss. Cepillo-Sanders has retired the money and is going to bring it back home, to Baltusia.. So, there is nothing left in the account and it will take her maybe one month to come back home with the money. We still remark that money was deposite from an anonimous compagny in Baltusia, Hoverer, we've learned that the Bank seem to tell its clients what they want to hear Meadow Meami-Burris. State prosecutor. |
| Date | 22:44:59, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your Honour, There is no evidence that Mr Burgmuller paid Miss Smith 700 000 000 LOD, there is no evidence. Therefore if the prosecution cannot find some evidence that Mr Burgmuller gave Miss Smith this money via another business or otherwise, then we ask that the prosecution drop the corruption and mafia charges on lack of evidence. There isn't any physical evidence, only words said by Mr Price, and all 4 defendants deny what he is saying. So the charge should be dropped. Prosecution, will you drop charges 2,3,9 and 11 due to lack of evidence? Mary Jones Defense Attorney |
| Date | 22:49:57, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your Honor, Paul Price is the witness for charges 2 and 3, not 9 and 11, the witness for these is Enrique Yepes. And it would be obvious that the defendant would deny these facts. Is the defence saying that Sally Smith own a legitimate account in Wantumi or that she never hold any accout in Wantumi in all. Plus, demand, does any of the defendant is able identifie the 5th man shown on the video. Price say he does not know him. Meadow Meami-Burris. State prosecutor. |
| Date | 23:21:09, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | At this point I believe it would be best if Sally Smith took the stand and I will ask her questions, because there a lot of questions that the prosecution want the defendant to answer. Could Paul Price now leave the stand for Sally Smith, is that ok with the prosecution? We can come back to Mr Price later. Mary Jones Defense Attorney |
| Date | 23:32:28, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your Honour, does the defense more question to ask to Paul Price, For his own security, we believe that is best that he is conduct to a police station, so he is not killed by a vampire for admitting robbery. The prosecutor have question to ask to Sally Smith. we remark that right, it is his parole agaisnt her. If the defence has no more question for Paul price, we shall let Sally Smith take the stand. Meadow Meami-Burris. State prosecutor |
| Date | 00:03:51, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Perfect, as per court process, the defendant's witnesses are asked questions by the defendant's counsel first. Sally Smith, please take the stand. MJ: On the 3rd of November 4169 you met with the other 3 defendants, Mr Price and someone known as Zed, at your office. Is that correct? SS: That is correct, yes. MJ: And why did they meet you, what was the purpose of the meeting? SS: Well, Mr Burgmuller had phoned me a few days earlier and he said that he wanted to meet with me with regards to a new product, so I set up an appointment for the 3rd of November. He asked if he could bring along Mr Hernandez and Mr Matias Wright and Mr Price, he also asked to bring 'Zed', so I approved. When Mr Burgmuller and the others arrived in my office they informed me that they had discovered an incredible drug known as X3 and it could save millions of lives, however they couldn't get it registered in different nations across the Terra until they had proof that it was completely safe, so they asked me if I could sign them an executive order stating that they could test the drug on animals. I accepted, however I did let them know that we would have to run it by the federal government. They said that was fine and they wouldn't begin any testing until the federal government has spoke about it and then had been in contact again. MJ: So you didn't discuss Mr Burgmuller paying you money for this order. SS: No, of course not. Everyone in the room apart from Mr Price says that. MJ: How long did the meeting last? SS: Around half an hour. MJ: And all you talked about was the animal testing? SS: We only talked about X3 and it being tested on animals and how it couldn't be registered unless it was defined as completely safe. MJ: So everyone in your office at the time says that you didn't discuss any transfer of money, apart from Mr Price. Why do you think Mr Price would have made this up? SS: Personally, I think Mr Price wanted to get money, and the way he could do this was out of my Wutani bank account. Mr Price didn't see any letter, because such a letter doesn't exist. What he did see was the corner of my computer monitor, which I was using to review some banking at the time, yes I know I shouldn't have left my monitor on. He likely saw that I had a lot of money in my Wutani bank account and wanted to steal it. It was convenient for him that he was in my office at the time and discussing things, so he created a false kind of alibi to say that he stole the money because we were all corrupted. When in fact, Mr Price was greedy because he wasn't paid greatly at Burgmuller Pharma and saw an easy opportunity for money in my bank account. When he feared he would be caught he made up all of the things about Burgmuller Pharma and me doing deals and pinned all the blame on us, when in fact, it was just Mr Price being too greedy for his own goods. MJ: Well that is astonishing! Could you tell us about your financial history with the freedom bank in Wutani. SS: Certainly. I opened a savings account with them on the 3rd of December 4168 and deposited 500 000 000 LOD. MJ: How did you have such a large amount of money to put into a savings account? SS: I was a very successful international lawyer, in fact I was Baltusian Ambassador to the General Assembly for a while. Whilst I won't reveal complete court case history, I made over 325 000 000 LOD on winning a single case. MJ: Ah, that makes sense now, so, what did you deposit next? SS: On the 17th of January the next year, which would have been 4169, I deposited another 100 500 000 LOD. I made another couple of smaller payments of 50 000 000 and 1 743 843 in the months of March and May of that year. MJ: And you made a final payment on the 27th of August 4169, of 100 000 000 LOD I believe, where did this money come from. SS: I was elected to governor in the June of that year so that was some money I had made winning the governorship, plus some other previous funds from when I was working as a lawyer. MJ: So you definitely held an account in the Freedom Bank of Wutani? SS: Most certainly, the bank will clarify that. MJ: Why choose that bank over hundreds of others? SS: My accountants said it was the safest and had the best interest for the large sums of money I would be depositing out of all the banks. MJ: And finally Governor Smith, do you know who the 5th man in the video was, who attended the meeting, his name was Zed? SS: When Mr Burgmuller contacted me he asked if he could bring 'Zed' along. I just approved thinking it was one of his staff. MJ: Did he say anything during the meeting? SS: Not really, he just said hello when he walked in, kind of nodded in agreement with Mr Burgmuller and me when we discussed X3 and the animal testing and said goodbye at the end. I don't really know why he was there to be perfectly honest. MJ: Thank you Governor Smith. |
| Date | 00:04:53, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your Honour, We are now finished our questioning of Sally Smith, the prosecution are free to cross-examine and question. Mary Jones Defense Attorney |
| Date | 00:29:56, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your honour, we have several questions to ask to the witness. Sherry Cepillo-Sanders was able to retire all of the money, and she said that in fact, there was 272 837 212 LOD hidden, which bring the total ammout of money to 1 025 081 055 LOD. We shall pose all our of question in a moment, but we wish to present that it was surprisingly easy for a detective to put her hand on a vast sum of money. Meadow Meami-Burris. State prosecutor |
| Date | 00:40:15, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your honour, we shall ignore the money we have discovered. We will begin by question the witness money. If I look at the minister of finance decleration, it is said, that the highest salary in the nation, is notably earned by Marnady Evil, Ceo of Evil Corporation, and few others, Salary, 184 638 per years. If my calculation, it would take you to work a bit more then 37 years at the highest salary without paying any income taxes to be able to save that money. If fact, it would take 40 years of full salary. So, how old are you ? |
| Date | 01:12:07, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | I am 67 years old. But what I just said is that I earned vast amounts of money on huge court cases, I wasn't on a yearly salary, rather I was the best lawyer in Baltusia for 11 years running, so I was given all the big cases. I paid a very high rate of tax on my earnings, in fact the highest tax bracket. |
| Date | 01:14:54, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Based on the current income, taxes, you would have gained more then 1 203 590 148 LOD during your career. Is that truth ? Meadow Meami-Burris. State prosecutor |
| Date | 01:15:22, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Objection! Your Honour, The minister of finance is clearly delusional if the highest paid man in the nation is only on 184 638, I know attorneys who haven't even been in the job for 5 years earning way more than 200 000. The prosecution have clearly made an error, because I personally am on more than that sum of money. Mary Jones Defence Attorney |
| Date | 01:16:40, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | That is the truth, I have earned around 1 250 000 000 LOD in my career. Sally Smith |
| Date | 01:23:36, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your honor, The number from the ministry of finance are clear, no one in the nations earn more then 184 638 per years. Here are the proof. the files from the minister of finance that say, that those earning 184 638 BLD per year or more, pay 1 000 00 in taxes years. http://classic.particracy.net/newtaxbill.php?100000=38&bracket=100000&change=184638&100000=38&update=Update And here, the proof that say no one earn more then 184639 BLD per Year http://classic.particracy.net/newtaxbill.php?184638=38&bracket=184638&change=184639&184638=38&update=Update OOC : you can check the maximum salary, by trying to see up to which bracket no income taxes are registered, I can say then the highest bracket you |
| Date | 01:25:57, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC : I'll take you did not knew that particracy already had a maximum salary set in stone. |
| Date | 01:26:22, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC: Hold up, everything isn't based solely on game mechanics. The game mechanics doesn't take into account mega businessmen etc. The game was never fully completed so we can't base everything off of game mechanics, otherwise there would still be loads of Aldegarians living here, but they left because of a bill ages ago but the population still includes the,. See what i mean- make the exception for people in big business, lawyers and doctors |
| Date | 01:28:54, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC: I did, but I make exceptions, because the game isn't fully completed. It's more realistic to have people earning what they would earn in real life. Look at top business people and top lawyers- they're worth billions |
| Date | 01:40:32, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC: Void the last statement then? |
| Date | 01:43:11, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC : it is certainely true that some business and some lawyers are big. Yet when I consired Marnady Evil, I never though I would be allowed to make such an exception. We should continue this discussion in private message only... I'Ll justify this by saying the salary is missing from database, don't know, It is was hacked and every high income declaration are gone. There, got explaination. IC : Your Honours, it is getting, late, we'll write all our questions on papers. We strongly suggest the governor to contact a wantumian and tried to get her share of money, before the banks is invaded by people seeking to get money, the bank won't be able to close everyone. We have received word from the minister of finance that they were hacked, meaning declaration of revenu were lost or modified. So my questions. Question 1 : Did you knew that Wantumi do not have any police force ? Question 2 : did you knew that all experimentation on animals are illegals ? Question 3 : did you knew that at the time when you signed the paper, that any experimentation on animals where illegals ? Question 3 : You say, Paul Price and Zed, along the three accusee were present at that meeting, is that correct ? Question 4 : Why would a governor from a invest sum in Lodamunese Dollar in a Bank from Wantumi ? Question 5 : You are saying that Burgmuller did not handed a paper that contain the number of an account in the freedom bank of Wantumi, is that correct ? Question 6 : If you nothing wrong, why does the bank just gave the account directly to the detective ? Question 7 : If I stand by your decleration, you say that you were checking your account in Wantumi, when the representive from Burgmuller pharma have come to your office. Is that true ? Question 8 : Do you know who is Zed ? Question 9 : Did you invest in Wantumi in order to avoid paying any income taxes ? Question 10 : do you define a country who has no police force as safe ? |
| Date | 01:55:09, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Q1: Yes, not formally. Q2: In Baltusia, yes. Q3: Yes. Q4: Becuause the LOD is the most stable currency and the interest rates at that bank were excellent. Q5: Burgmuller did not hand any paper containing my account number to me. Q6: I have done nothing wrong, but I am in court. It is standard procedure that money is seized and accounts suspended when an individual is accused of corruption. Q7: I had been doing some banking earlier on and forgot to close the tab, regrettably I left my monitor on during the meeting. Q8: As I have said, no. Mr Burgmuller asked if he could bring Zed along and I approved. Q9: No, I have payed all income tax, I hold the role of governor and my income tax is deducted from my income before I receive it. Q10: Wantumi is a unique situation, that bank was very safe. I trust my accountants, I didn't lose a penny in that bank. Sally Smith Defendanr |
| Date | 03:25:53, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your Honour The standard procedure when a individual is suspected of crime is to freeze their money, but in no occasion, in Baltusia at least, a bank is allowed to switch around the owner of an account, as shown in this court. The fact that our detective was able to take the money, prove she is now the "legitimate owner of the account". We suspect it is because the bank just shift money and account depending on who ask. We believe that in fact, Miss Smith just learned that she has lost everything for now and will have to get to Wantumi herself. But Concerning, we remind that charge 1, government abuse of power, take the fact that a governor cannot give permission to a business to engage in animals experimentation. So, we'll have few mores question, then we'll try to summon Paul Price once again. to clarify the situation, since he did not mention a computer and he seem to want to be in prison. Question 1: is it normal for representative of a compagny to be talk about a procedure who is illegal. Question 2 : at the time, did you knew what kind of salary Paul Price was receiving from Burgmuller Pharma Question 3 : If you say you deposite that money to the bank, why the Bank told our detective it was a anynomous organisation that gaves us the money ? Question 4 : Was your money depose in an other banks before August 4168 ? |
| Date | 08:32:58, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Q1: It is unusual, but this struck me personally. Regulations were going to stop millions of people receiving this drug, the drug that could save their life. My husband, he is ill with a heart disease and they believe that they could treat him with X3, I just wanted it done quickly, 6 guinea pigs and 2 rabbits for the millions of lives going to be saved. Please, I ask your honour to see between common sense and the law. What I did wasn't by the rule book, it was a decision o took to save lives. Q2: I wasn't aware of the exact amount, however I knew it wasn't as much as the other men in the room were getting, apart from Zed, i knew nothing about what he earned. Q3: From what I am aware the first few payments were done by me in person, the one in August was put under the name of 'anonymous organisation' because my accountants felt it would be a lot safer with all of the vampires and mafia to deal with the bank accounts. Q4: Yes, of course. All in Baltusia |
| Date | 08:53:05, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your honour, ,, That will be all. We state that, if Alexandra Jenning was arrested and judged for trying to answer a direct threat agaisnt her state and many people, I don't why see the defendant should be allowed to get away with violating the law, which say that animals testing is illegal. Can remark that 4000 person were killed by a cultic group and that this cultic could strike once again. But your honour, that was not judged as a valid reason to violate the law, this should not be etheir a valid reason. We note that did not exactly answer the question, Why does that Bank switch over your account to Sherry Cepillo-Sanders in a matters of minutes, like they are playing around with people money. And we have asked, do a police that has no police force is safe place to invest your money, we did not get an answer. We also note that 143 000 BLD per year, is not exactly a small ammout of money. We also wonder why does Baltusia have become unsafe, we know the vampires have risen recently, but they never stole money and mafia groups are not news, every state have their own mafia.. Meadow Meami-Burris. State prosecutor |
| Date | 12:07:39, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Your Honour, Our client answered the 8 and 4 questions she was posed, the questions that the prosecution are saying she didn't answer are new all together, however she will answer them now. Mary Jones |
| Date | 12:10:53, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Q1: Why did the bank switch the account over- because it's standard procedure during criminal investiagatipn. Q2: I told you that bank was safe to investt money in already. Q3:At no point did I say 143 000 BLD was a small amount of money. There's absolutely no relevance of that question Q4: The prosecution know fine well that there is an issue with policing in Baltusia and the vampires and mafia have been able to escalate. Sally Smith Defendant Your Honour, Will the prosecution drop charges 2 and 3 on lack of evidence so that we can focus on the other parts of this case? Thank you Mary Jones Defence Attorney |
| Date | 17:28:23, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | OOC : It is not the first time, we can't communicate. Q2 relate to the country not the bank, and this is a suspicious defense. but since I'm leaving particracy, I don't exactly care much. This take too much time. for no reason |
| Date | 18:57:57, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Patriotic Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | The state has decided to suspend its case. We discharge the jury and thank all parties for their efforts. The defendants are free to go. Judge Montpelier |
| Date | 19:02:51, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the SUPREME COURT: Criminal - State v. Smith and Burgmuller Pharmaceuticals (Trial) |
| Message | Excellent. *Smiles to clients*. Thank you Your Honour. Mary Jones Defence Attorney |
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