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Bill: President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization.
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Democratic Party - Liberal
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 4172
Description[?]:
| This message is for Congress and the CEO of Enist, I can say that on moral and rational grounds, this company is owed nothing in compensation for nationalization. Taking into account generations of depletion, destruction, pollution, devastation, state subsidies and highway robbery. This company has a monumental and growing debt to our society. So if they want to sue, I will get one of the best lawyers in Baltusia. I also want to say to the left bloc. Put up nationalization bills and I will instruct my party to vote yes on it. Also to the green party, nationalizing our energy will help our environment because we will be more in control. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:37:55, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | Mr President, Where do you get your info, we can assure you that the compagny has been quite respectfull, for a private to the environnement, which remain me. I've submitted an offer to the Istalian, if everything is accepted, Enist Could become an Evil compagny. We are not agaisnt nationalization, but we demand to include a clause, that the direction of the compagny be recognized as autonomous. Marnady Evil, Director of evil corporations. |
| Date | 21:40:22, February 24, 2017 CET | From | United Democratic Party - Liberal | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | Marnady Evil, I will issue an executive order to get rid of your party if you don't give back control to the original owner of the party. |
| Date | 21:47:48, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | What the president is talking about. We've simply submitted an offer, the offer is before the board enist board of directors, OFFER for Enist Baltusia: 8.5 billion of baltusian dollars, if also the energy preduction will be nationalized, for enist greentech we will demand other 3.9 billion The offer was not accepted, nether refused. I am waiting for their answer. but if the president want to get a conflict with Istalia, well, Mr President, that is your choice, you are free to handle foreign diplomacy as you wish, you are the president. And For your information, the Founder of Evil Corporation is my father, who is dead, I am the original owner of the corporation, and I also found the PLCA. and note that the PLCA is not owned by anyone. its current leader is my wife, Quinn Green. Marnady Evil, Director of Evil Corporations |
| Date | 21:56:35, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | Scaremongering by the far left making the President change his decision. "You are going with the right and if you do that we won't endorse you." It appears that the President is putting his personal political career before the interests of Baltusia. And who will be left to clean up this leftist mess. Us, on the centre and right. Always the cleanup crew. Dr Julia Baker Minority Speaker |
| Date | 22:00:16, February 24, 2017 CET | From | United Democratic Party - Liberal | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | Republican Party, No I was always on the fence about this issue. I couldn't make up my mind, but now I think it's clear. |
| Date | 22:02:02, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | Miss Baker. now it is not the time for right-wing fear mongering. I also remained that the bill contain many provision which were not mention. Not that it matters, because our compagny is good with or without regulation. The current goal should be trying to avoid an international crisis with a Istalia. And sorry, I did a bit mistake. this is what the Istalian asked us 8,5 billion for Enist Baltusia 3,9 billion for Enist greentech We presented this . Our offer 6,5 billion for Enist Baltusia 2,7 billion for Enist greentech We are trying to come to a deal. Marnady Evil, Director of Evil Corporations |
| Date | 22:05:39, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | The President was only wanting to listen to the communists from the start. That company has been a great asset to our nation and to throw it away is a terrible decision. The people aren't going to like this. No police, no economy and now no world-class solar plant. The results at the next election will reflect the terrible wrongs the far-left have done to this great nation at the next election. Stephen Trudeau Shadow Finance Minister |
| Date | 22:08:07, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | No police and no economy are thing we were present before we came to power. The compagny is still in Terrarokka and is still operationnal, it stopped functionning but we can get production right back on track very soon, Baltusia will keep its world-class solar plant. We are trying to make everymore in order to make it happen. Ministry of Science and Technology Lilian Aguila-Seco |
| Date | 22:08:36, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | Fear mongering! You certainly are one to talk Mr Evil! The PLCA are determined to fear their centre-left colleagues into voting with them by saying- "they're all going to lose their jobs" . Istalia is a great nation, a great trade partner and a great friend on the international circuit. I will not take the far left in this nation destroying our diplomacy with nations such as Istalia. We are only in the Security Council because of the Centre-Right, because we know how the Terra works, how we can all come together for the common good. And now we can only stand by the sidelines and watch our great nation crumble into nothing... Dr Julia Baker Minority Speaker |
| Date | 22:09:42, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian International Democratic Party | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | We had enough police, if it wasn't for corrupted governors and the PLCA being terrorist sympathisers we would have been fine... Dr Julia Baker Minority Speaker |
| Date | 22:13:38, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | Miss baker. if you want to call me upon, I shall answer. We are in communication with the Istalian, I am trying to find a compensation deal and I've submitted an offer, what else do you asked of me ? And i've received no report of the PLCA pressuring the government into getting away from international relations, the minister of the PLCA have no role in foreign relation I do wonder what Donald Scott is up scott, since we have not seem Baltusia foreign minister in any international reunion. But, it is not in our place to take their position. Baltusia foreign relation must be handled by the foreign minister or not be handled at all. I am simply talking from Ceo to Ceo with Enist... that is all. Marnady Evil, Director of Evil Corporations |
| Date | 22:35:37, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Baltusian Democratic Green Party (BDGP) | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | Mr President, Whilst I respect your opinions, my party voted against and will continue to vote against full nationalisation of our energy sector. We believe that it's imperative for the Government to have some sort of role, but in order to ensure a healthy economy, compromise with the private sector is necessary. And unless we give capitalists a reason to protect the environment, this debate will just continue to go on - work with the businesses to make them want to have a healthy environment. This policy fits in with the BDGP's guiding principles of agreement, respect for the environment and a centre-left country. BDGP Chairwoman Elyse Wood |
| Date | 23:22:05, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | Salvo Tanzi, CEO of Enist: "Mr President, this statement is simple scandalous and don't reflect the reality of the situation. First of all, my company is not in Baltusia for generation but from less then 50 years and if you didn't notice, Enist in Baltusia invested on the biggest solar facility of the world and Our local brench is called Enist GreenTech Ltd, GREENTECH: almost all our investments in Baltusia are about environmental friendly and renovable resources. Then, thi decision to dany any kind of compensation! It is simply an insult! Our investment create hundreds of thausands of jobs in Baltusia, we invested in your economy and in several your industries and after the entered of Enist in Baltusia your energy generation increase of almost 40% respect the begin of the century. Enist realize all these achievement, with money of Enist come from Istalia in high amount. This is not a "nationalization" this is rather a robbery, a compulsory expropriation. Now, if this is the decision of this Government, you will be contacted by the Enist Legal Counsel and given the incoming nationalisation with these condistions, the company, to limit other losses, decided to take this measures: - immediatly stop of all the operations - immediatly annulation of all the contract whit baltusian contractors and suppliers - retirement of all the projects and studies under development in Baltusia and their deplacement in Istalia - retirement of the owned technological patent deposited to your patent office - retirment of all the mobile installations and assets from Baltusia - indefinite suspension for oldest enist workers and beginning of progressive dismissal of the rest of the workforce for economic reason. - immediate relocation of the bank deposited assets held in baltusian banks (something like 5 billions of Baltusian dollar) Thank you and to next communication. Salvo Tanzi, CEO of Enist |
| Date | 23:27:35, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | (Little update: also Hasan Grand Investments SpA is concerned by the situation and it could decide to sell its shares of Buruller pharmaceutical and Port Oro Minerals and Mining company PLS (about the last one you could see the effect of the investments: |
| Date | 23:28:32, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7076#p110355 here the link, sorry for too messages |
| Date | 23:29:39, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | Burgmuller* |
| Date | 23:37:45, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | Burgmuller* |
| Date | 23:44:12, February 24, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | Burgmuller* |
| Date | 00:12:29, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | OOC : can you not flood thanks |
| Date | 00:36:25, February 25, 2017 CET | From | United Democratic Party - Syndicalists | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | Thank you for changing your mind president its great to hear you support you have our backing |
| Date | 10:11:29, February 25, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the President issuing statement on Energy, changing mind on nationalization. |
| Message | OOC: sorry! I don't know why all these repetition. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 184 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 516 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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