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Bill: P.d.l. 02/73 - Train Operating Companies (TOC)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Popolari per l'Istalia - U.o.L.
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 4173
Description[?]:
| Davide Camerone: "Basta ritardi, basta infrastrutture vecchie e insicure. Diamo all'Istalia infrastrutture degne del nostro valore" "Stop delays, Stop old and unsafe infrastructure. Let Istalia have infrastructures worthy of our value" |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Train Operating Companies (TOC).
Old value:: The State owns and operates a national TOC, alongside private TOCs.
Current: Private companies operate TOCs throughout the country.
Proposed: Private companies operate TOCs throughout the country.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:54:24, February 28, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the P.d.l. 02/73 - Train Operating Companies (TOC) |
| Message | Sara Zanardi, Whip of PSLI: "Mr Camerone, I don't know what problem you have in remind the things but I would like point your attention on this: http://classic.particracy.net/viewtreaty.php?treatyid=3636 We are talking about the TMCN, which is not only focused on the highway system, but also on the railway system which in the future we shall think to intervene to adeguate the tracks on the TMCN disposition. But, I would like propose to the PPI this: we will vote in favor of this bill only if you will vote in favor of a bill which I will create to oblige the private companies to invest in the next 5 years in the refection of the railways system, stations, rail signs, security system, etc... following the provisons of the TMCN and invest totally an amount at least corrisponding to the 25% of the total amount for the works to adeguate the railway system to the provisions of the TMCN. What do you think? |
| Date | 10:13:13, February 28, 2017 CET | From | Popolari per l'Istalia - U.o.L. | To | Debating the P.d.l. 02/73 - Train Operating Companies (TOC) |
| Message | Davide Camerone: "Privatizzare la rete delle infrastrutture porterebbe molti giovamenti al progetto di TMCN. La costruzione degli adeguamenti strutturali e delle nuove stazioni/carrozze sarebbe più veloce e di maggiore qualità. Bocciamo la proposta del PSLI: non vogliamo che nessuno sia "obbligato" a investire in questa infrastruttura. Il governo privatizzi subito l'infrastruttura nazionale e faccia dei bandi aperti per avviare i lavori. Zanardi vedrà che in questo modo i soldi che cerca disperatamente arriveranno subito" "Privatize the network infrastructure would lead to many advantage TMCN project. The construction of organizational changes and new stations/coaches would be faster and of higher quality. Bocciamo the proposal of PSLI: we do not want no one is "obliged" to invest in this infrastructure. The government immediately privatize the national infrastructure and than face of calls for proposals open to start the work. Zanardi will see that in this way the money desperately trying arrive soon" |
| Date | 10:50:16, February 28, 2017 CET | From | Alleanza Radicale - NCD | To | Debating the P.d.l. 02/73 - Train Operating Companies (TOC) |
| Message | Lorenzo Verhoeven, Leader of PSLI: "data quest'ultima dichiarazione dell'Onorevole Camerone, come al solito sordo a qualsiasi compromesso o dialogo, ritiriamo la nostra apertura su questa privatizzazione. Abbiamo preso degli obblighi da rispettare ratificando l'Accordo sul TMCN e senza alcuna garanzia da parte dei privati affinché investano nella ristrutturazione ed adeguamento della Rete Ferroviaria Nazionale, temendo che possano preferire altri obbiettivi specifici e posticipare oltre i termini del trattato interventi sulla rete per focalizzarsi su altro, e non sto parlando di lassismo o di comportamenti atti a facili profitti, semplicemente una divergenza di obbiettivi sul breve e medio termine, non ci sentiamo di avallare questa proposta del PPI. Onorevole Camerone, gli attori economici che operano nel mercato, non vengono da un altro pianeta, ma vivono all'interno della nostra società e grazie ad essa, plasmata anche dall'azione del governo nazionale, essi vivono e prosperano. Non vedo perché non possano essere coinvolti nell'evoluzione e nelle necessità della nazione, non vedo perché la società non possa cercare e richiedere una loro cooperazione e collaborazione per il bene della comunità che da loro da vivere. Data la solita miopia del PPI e dato che per loro gli attori economici privati vivono in una dimensione parallela irraggiungibile tale da scaricare loro di dosso ogni responsabilità nei confronti della società e della comunità all'interno della quale invece vivono, ci dispiace far fallire questa proposta che sarebbe potuta facilmente passare semplicemente sedendoci a tavolino e trovando punti di incontro con il settore privato, dialogo e ricerca delle migliori soluzione, qualcosa di normale che però il PPI sembra non concepire nella loro torre d'avorio distaccati dalla realtà e dalla quotidianità. Grazie" "Given this last statement by Mr Camerone, as usually dull to any compromise or dialogue, we shall withdraw by our opening on this privatization. We have taken certain obligations by ratifying the Agreement on TMCN and without any warranty from private to invest in the renovation and upgrading of the National Railway Network, fearing they might prefer other specific goals and delay beyond the terms of the Treaty in order to focus interventions on the network on the other, and I'm not talking about laxism or behaviors oriented to easy profits but simply a difference of goals in the short and medium term, we can not really endorse this proposal by the PPI. Mrs Camerone, economic players operating in the market, are not from another planet, but they live within our society and thanks to it, also with precious activity of the national government, they live and thrive. I do not see why they can not be involved in the evolution and needs of the nation, I do not see why the company would not try and seek their cooperation and collaboration for the good of the community which feed them. Given the usual short-sightedness of the PPI and since for their private economic actors living in a parallel dimension unattainable as to download them off all responsibility towards society and the community within which they live instead, we are sorry to derail this proposal that could have easily approved just spend sitting down around a table and finding points of contact with the private sector, dialogue and search for the best solution, something normal but the PPI seems not conceive in their ivory tower detached from reality and everyday life. Thank you |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 316 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 319 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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