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Bill: July 4177 Debate on the Rutania - Luthori Land, Lease, & Friendship Agreement
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Luthori
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 4182
Description[?]:
| Mr. Speaker, The Foreign Ministry has been in contact with Rutania to ameliorate our bilateral relationship, and just recently, Luthori has been informed that Rutania is considering shifting control of the McCarthy Naval Base from Hutori to Luthori. The treaty, titled the Rutania - Luthori Land, Lease, & Friendship Agreement (http://classic.particracy.net/viewtreaty.php?treatyid=3652), includes other articles, and I urge all parties to examine it closely. With that, I open the floor for debate. This will allow us to consider the merits of the treaty being offered to us and will help ascertain where the Imperial Diet stands on ties with a northwestern neighbor. I yield. Rt Hon. Christopher Holt MD Prime Minister United Luthori (Sandulka Center) |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:23:37, March 09, 2017 CET | From | Whig Party | To | Debating the July 4177 Debate on the Rutania - Luthori Land, Lease, & Friendship Agreement |
| Message | Message from the Rutanian Ministry of Foreign Affairs: We hope that the Imperial Diet of Luthori will approve this measure, this would allow Luthori to have a naval base strategically placed on the other side of the continent. |
| Date | 22:36:25, March 09, 2017 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party 🌄 | To | Debating the July 4177 Debate on the Rutania - Luthori Land, Lease, & Friendship Agreement |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We have no problem with the provisions of this treaty and would like to see it passing withing due time. Caiden Mccullough Minister of Defence New Conservative Party (Orange South-East). |
| Date | 22:42:02, March 09, 2017 CET | From | United Luthori | To | Debating the July 4177 Debate on the Rutania - Luthori Land, Lease, & Friendship Agreement |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I wish to first point out the prohibitive cost of leasing such a naval base, and also wish to discuss whether the benefits outweigh the costs. To lease the McCarthy Naval Base would cost this government 500,000,000 LPD per year. Our budget surplus per year is somewhere along the line of 21,000,000,000. While we certainly could afford it, should we really be paying the equivalent of 25% of the Finance Ministry's budget, or 50 times the budget for the Office of the Prime Minister, for a single base? I wish to point out to the members of this body that Aloria is a signatory nation of the Luthori Treaty of Mutual Defense, and so, if necessary, our military could avail themselves to the bases in Aloria if a situation in West Artania ever merited our attention. Nonetheless, in an act of good faith between the peoples of Luthori and Rutania, we should pay for the costs of base maintenance if we decided to use a particular base for extended or indefinite periods of time in a manner that implies ownership, though it may not legally be so. As such, I urge the Defense Ministry to negotiate a lower cost of lease of this base, and to solicit guarantees that this lease will not be compromised before the 100 years are up. I yield. Rt Hon. Natalie Wright MD Minister of Finance United Luthori (New Salem West) |
| Date | 05:20:14, March 12, 2017 CET | From | Whig Party | To | Debating the July 4177 Debate on the Rutania - Luthori Land, Lease, & Friendship Agreement |
| Message | The People's Assembly of Rutania has failed to secure 3/4 majority on this bill, elections are upcoming in our nation, the result of our elections in 4180 will determine the future possibility of Rutania ratifying this bill. The center and left wing of Rutanian parties maintain a nationalist isolationist leaning view on our military and diplomatic relations. Furthering economic ties may be a more fertile starting ground, should the upcoming election go well my office would like to continue negotiations regarding the Lease of Ft. McCarthy and more. Also as Secretary of the Rutanian Foreign Ministry I would like to personally assure the Imperial Diet of Rutania's integrity and honorable diplomatic reputation, should we agree to lease this for 100 years rest assured we shall follow the terms of the agreement. -------Message addressed to the Imperial Diet of Luthori ----From the Foreign Secretary of Rutania Thomas Barron |
| Date | 22:53:43, March 14, 2017 CET | From | United Luthori | To | Debating the July 4177 Debate on the Rutania - Luthori Land, Lease, & Friendship Agreement |
| Message | We are going to be archiving this debate. |
| Date | 19:32:06, March 17, 2017 CET | From | Hosian Nationalists Party of Luthori | To | Debating the July 4177 Debate on the Rutania - Luthori Land, Lease, & Friendship Agreement |
| Message | Mr Speaker, My phone party and I can not accept treaty. We all know that having a dominant military is vital to protection of our lives, rights, and beliefs. But at what cost. This base would cost an excessive amount of tax payers money to lease and to maintain. Therefore we will vote no. I yield, Ralph Reed Leader of the HNP. |
| Date | 19:32:08, March 17, 2017 CET | From | Hosian Nationalists Party of Luthori | To | Debating the July 4177 Debate on the Rutania - Luthori Land, Lease, & Friendship Agreement |
| Message | Mr Speaker, My phone party and I can not accept treaty. We all know that having a dominant military is vital to protection of our lives, rights, and beliefs. But at what cost. This base would cost an excessive amount of tax payers money to lease and to maintain. Therefore we will vote no. I yield, Ralph Reed Leader of the HNP. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 503 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 11 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 136 |
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